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Apple G4 Onboard ATA/66 IDE Controller Tests
By Joe Dylik
Published: 3/14/2000

Along with IDE RAID test results (up to 4 drives, with up to 2 IDE Controllers as well as comparisons to the onboard G4 IDE controller) that were shown in the previously published IDE RAID performance article, Joe also sent test results comparing the G4's onboard IDE controller (ATA/66) with the original IBM drive vs. a Seagate Barracuda IDE drive. He also tested the effects of an ATA/66 cable (shielded) vs. a standard IDE cable (unshielded). These results are shown below. Unlike some IDE controllers on the PC that are supposed to detect the presence of an ATA/66 cable, it appears the onboard IDE controller of the G4 does not do any cable sensing.


Joe's Test System:

  • Apple G4/400 AGP
  • OS 9, VM OFF, 512MB SDRAM
  • ATI Rage128 AGP Graphics card (OpenGL 1.1.2/ATI 4.2 drivers)
  • OEM 27.3 GB IBM Deskstar DPTA-372730 (7200RPM/2MB cache)
  • The Seagate disk was a Barracuda ST328040A ver.311, 28.5 GB, 7200rpm, 512KB cache model.


OEM IBM HD vs Seagate Barracuda:

IBM vs Seagate Test Results


ATA/66 vs Standard IDE Cable Tests:

The table below is wide so you may have to stretch or scroll your browser. Note: based on the tests below, it appears the onboard controller is not reducing speeds with a non-ATA/66 cable. This could lead to data errors that would not show in benchmarks. It is not recommended to run an ATA/66 controller with a standard IDE cable for this reason (some controllers sense the cable type and reduce speeds but apparently not the G4's onboard controller).

ATA 66 vs ATA 33 Test results

Joe's Comments on the results: Here's Joe's comments on the cable tests:

" The real eye opener is when I changed the cables out to perform additional tests.

I could not record any discernable performance differences when using ATA 40-wire 40-pin cables on the drives as opposed to the required ATA/66 80-wire 40-pin cables. ... [ I also saw no difference last year with either cable type in a B&W G3 (which has a ATA/33 controller however), noted in the B&W G3 IDE slave drive article.-Mike] I tested all the controllers (Apple on board, Promax, and Acard) with both disks and the results were similar. (Only the Apple on board controller test with the ATA cables switched is included in the test results.)

When I change the data modes on the hard disks from mode 4 ATA/66 to mode 3 ATA/33 the performance of the drives were almost identical.

Based upon all the information I can find about the ATA/33 and ATA/66 standards, THERE SHOULD BE SOME NOTICEABLE PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCES IN DATA TRANSFER SPEEDS WHEN ALL THE ATA/66 STANDARDS ARE NOT MET ON THE HOST SYSTEM.

It appears to me that the primary component to the ATA/66 standard is the 80-wire 40-pin cable whose presence is supposed to be detectable by the controller and the drive. The additional 40 ground wires in the ATA/66 cable is what is responsible for the increased signal speed across the wires that make the ATA/66 standard of data transfer rates achievable. [ The additional conductors are for shielding to ensure a clean signal at the higher rates, avoiding possible errors. Perhaps there is a higher chance of data errors with the unshielded cable that would not show in pure benchmarks-Mike.]

What gives???
Are we all being duped???
Is the ATA/66 standard all "Smoke and Mirrors"???

I called Segate tech support about my cable swapping findings; they didn’t seem to have an answer. They thought maybe it might be the Mode setting on the drive though the ST328040A Barracudas supposedly shipped with Mode 4 enabled. (Some manufactures ship ATA/66 drives with Mode 4 disabled because of Bios problems with some of the older computers they are installed into. On the batch of five Barracudas that I tested, one of them shipped in Mode 3, the ATA/33 standard.) They also said that their Mac user base was very small and that they didn’t have very much experience with Macs or their ROM.

I also called Apple tech support and discussed the cable swapping tests with them in regards to the on board ATA/66 controller. An incident number was opened. They haven’t gotten back to me about this yet.... Sincerely,
Joe Dylik
Computer Administrator
Centermark Graphics"





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