Apple Kbase Docs on 10.3.2: (downloads, info on changes/fixes)

• Mac OS X 10.3.2 Update: Information and Download
    (also an About 10.3.2 doc w/change info)
• Mac OS X Server Update 10.3.2: Information and Download
• Mac OS X 10.3.2 Update: Addresses Video Issues With ATI XCLAIM VR Card, Power Mac G3 (Blue and White)
• Mac OS X 10.3.2 Update Addresses Virtual PC 6.1 "Emulated" PostScript Printer Issue
• Shake: Qmaster Incompatibilities With Mac OS X 10.3 (Shake Qmaster users who upgrade to Mac OS X Panther should update to Shake Qmaster 1.1 and Mac OS X 10.3.2. Kbase doc lists 3 issues resolved.)
• Received Faxes Aren't Saved in Folder Whose Name Has 2-Byte Characters ("If faxes you receive with Mac OS X Panther aren't saved in the folder you've selected, update to Mac OS X 10.3.2 or rename the folder.")
• Mac OS X 10.3: Kernel Panic when using iSub (fixed) ("Mac OS X 10.3.2 Update resolves an issue that can cause a kernel panic when an iSub speaker plays audio. Harmon Kardon Soundsticks with iSub, for example, include an iSub speaker.")
• OS X 10.3, PowerBook G4 Computer stops responding when window is moved ("Mac OS X 10.3.2 Update addresses an issue in which your PowerBook G4 computer may stop responding when a Classic application's window is moved. Affects PB G4 DVI, PB G4 15in FW800, PB G4 17in")

Tip to fix Slow 10.3.2 Booting:
Posts in Apple's discussion forums have a tip that has helped several readers that reported slow boot times after the 10.3.2 update (commonly reported delay at the login window startup for instance)
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@173.yIU0a22npxJ.3544@.599e61e8
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?14@@.599e619e/5

Open the terminal and enter

sudo ln -s /System/Library/Extensions/BootCache.kext/Contents/Resources/BootCacheContro l /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl

The reboot twice and boot times should be reduced. (This helped here on two systems running 10.3.2.) Here's comments on why this helps from one of the apple forum theads:

" Why does it work?
BootCacheControl is called during the startup process to create a cache of files needed to boot (up to the point were the login window is displayed).
In the 10.3.2 version the executable is called from the /etc/rc script twice:
- BootCacheControl
- BootCacheControl tag
both times its called using a shell variable set in /etc/rc which points to /System/Library/Extensions/BootCache.kext/Contents/Resources/BootCacheContro l (and if this would not exist it would point to /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl.)
But there is another important call of the executable from the loginwindow process later:
- /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl autostop 15
Unfortunately the file /usr/sbin/BootCacheControl does not exist on a(ll) updated 10.3.2 system. Thecopy command above takes care of that problem.
Regards, Joachim"

Reader Reports on 10.3.2 Update: (most recent first)
If you've updated to 10.3.2 and it fixes a problem (or creates one) - let me know. (include system/software details in reports - and note if you're using any 3rd party OS addons/mods/haxies. thanks. See above for tip regarding the common slow-booting issue w/10.3.2)

(added 12/31/2003)
" Mike, Just wanted to give some feedback on installing 10.3 on a bronze keyboard (Lombard) powerbook. I tried installing 10.3 in a variety of ways...from a totally clean (zeros written) hard drive to upgrading from 10.2. I couldn't get my powerbook to load 10.3 at all. I then read on the discussion forums on apple's website about removing the upper RAM dim. Well the first attempt at installing 10.3 resulted in errors, but the next attempt worked.
After my install (which used a 256 meg dim in the lower slot) I put my upper 256 meg dim back in (total of 512 meg) and the system booted and runs perfectly...I put the computer to sleep last night and it sprung back to life this morning with no problem, so I don't really know why the ram needed to be removed for the install.
Love your site! Thanks, David M. "

(added 12/31/2003)
" I installed Panther on my G4 DP 533. Now my ATI RagePro card is unusable.
I went to the (ATI) driver update page and could find no driver for Mac OSX Panther.
I heard through my local Mac-only shop of others with this problem.
Sincerely, - Dan R
(I asked Dan if he had installed the 10.3.2 update, which includes new ATI (and Nvidia) drivers that fixed some issues (such as the GF4MX problem in older G4 towers) and apple noted that 10.3.2 has support for the VR RagePro card, but he said 10.3.2 didn't help. He also tried the tip in the FAQ (nvram patch for older cards in 10.3) and said that did not help. His other graphics card is a Geforce2MX.)

I was just in working on my tower and am having no luck with the ATI card. Turns out the GeForce card is dandy, even without a Panther driver. It's the ATI card that Panther is not recognizing. I can't remember how old my Rage Pro card is, but there's no Rage Pro driver update for Panther on the ATI site. Maybe if ATI won't give me a refund, I can trade it in for a newer, dual-head card. What I'm getting now is one monitor performing flawlessly and the other VGA monitor appearing in black and white, very pixelated, and with the settings choices limited to only 640 x 480 and 256 colours. But even 256 colours would be better than what I'm seeing . Both monitors worked fine under 9.2.2 and Jaguar.
-Dan R."

(added 12/29/2003)
" Hi Mike! I can confirm the problem of Rob E. (added Dec. 23 2003 below) with a slightly different configuration
The problem:
full-screen games won't display with 10.3.2 (the display indicates an invalid video mode)

My configuration:
G3 B&W with a Radeon 7000 PCI Mac Edition and a Cinema Display 20" connected via an DVI->ADC adapter
I don't know if the problem existed with 10.3 but everything is fine when using 10.2.8
Jorg "

(added 12/29/2003)
" Hi Mike - A week or so back (Dec. 22nd post below), I sent you a report about my system hanging up on web access (under 10.3.2). The system would essentially freeze. For the holidays, we purchased a G4 iBook for my daughter and she ran into exactly the same problem. We have DSL at our house and I've seen a few reports of similar problems with DSL. But we've always had routers in-home. These are supposed to solve the problem, but obviously they don't.
But I found that explicitly specifying the DNS routers will allow the machines to work. Yeeha!
Michael C. "

(added 12/29/2003)
" Hi. I just updated to 10.3.2 and now my dvds and cds won't eject properly--it takes forever for them to eject, computer hangs, I have to restart.
Also, when I click on a program in the dock it locates the program in the finder instead of opening it. I have a g4 dual 1.42 ghz with 1.5gb.... Before I installed it everything was wonderful.
Thanks, Val Z. "

I don't see this problem here on 3 macs with 10.3.2.

(added 12/29/2003)
" Updating to Mac OS10.3.2 from Mac OS10.28, plus updating Protools to 6.22 has fixed a number of problems in both my Digio 001 and Digio 002.
My B&W G3, updated to a 550MHZ G4, saw a significent speed increase (Protools 6.01 really slowed it down). My 1 GHZ G4, connected to my Digio 002, now has an icon in the tool bar, and can allow other programs to use the audio out, handy for mastering in Peak 4.

Also Safari now works on my G3 - it didn't under OS 10.2.8
Both computers seem a bit snappier, however that should be expected with a new OS install. It did take a long time, after I installed OS 10.3, I used software update to install the 38 meg .2 update. All in all a great upgrade
Malcom R. "

(added 12/29/2003)
" Hi Mike,
I've updated to 10.3.2 and it creates a problem.
I know many people will think it's a joke but since the update I can no more play to Duke Nukem 1.2 under classic (my favorite game).
In fact the game is running but "behind" the Duke startup screen:
you can hear sounds and there are display variations reflecting the progress of the game and that's all. (The display is not refreshed).

I think that the new graphic driver included in 10.3.2 are responsible and that the great famous OS9 classic compatibility is slowly ending...

Maybe it means that some other softwares running under classic and using the drivers like Duke will no more run too...
Of course, my Mac is unable to boot under OS9
G4 MDD/FW800/1GHZ/ 1GB Mem/OSX.3.2 US/QT 6.5 Pro
If it can help.
Regards, Robert R.
(It may not matter but I asked Robert what graphics card he was using.)
Oops, sorry it's a standard Geforce 4MX and of course I set it to 640x480 256 colors"

(added 12/29/2003)
" Mike, Installed 10.3.2 about a week ago on a TiBook 1GHz, 512MB, and only had one hitch that I was surprised nobody else had reported. Installed okay, but on restart and after login, the computer hung right after the drives were mounted. Other users on this computer were fine.

Problem: I was running XBack and the Serene Screen Marine Aquarium as my desktop (and were also set to be loaded on startup). For some reason, Marine Aquarium causes my 10.3.2 to hang up and force a keyboard restart. ??? Oh, well, small cost.
--Alex "

Even apple notes that there can be problems with OS X updates if some 3rd party OS mods/addons are installed. (I generally avoid them - maybe that's why I don't have many of the problems others have reported). If in doubt (and the vendor's website has no info on compat. with the update) - removing it before updating may be best.

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
"A *very* small number of dual G5 users have encountered more severe problems than the "slow launching" that's been reported elsewhere. (My dual G5/2GHz system (OEM 512MB + 3GB of 3rd party RAM, 9800 OEM) has been fine w/10.3.2 so far. So are a PB G4 and MDD Dual G4 system - probably the only thing that's gone smoothly this month.-Mike) I was the first guinea pig into the abattoir this time (and don't plan to be ever again - wait a week before applying updates!) and started a few threads on the Apple forums... others with similar or identical problems include Brian B., Kenneth R., and Craig R., who pop up in the threads.

http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@202.ucacaJ0huNm.0@.599df8d6
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@249.8EaAab4orGU.7692@.599df8db
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@249.8EaAab4orGU.7694@.599dfc25

My particular machine is a G5 dual 2.0GHz with 512MB of Apple RAM and 1GB of third-party RAM (from 18004memory), dual 250GB SATA drives, bluetooth, airport, yadda. I've done numerous tests of the install and upgrade process - some at the behest of AppleCare - including such fun as taking everything non-Apple off the system (RAM, peripherals, even my beloved wheel mouse!) and dismounting the drive I wasn't installing to before every installation step! (They're thorough, those guys!)

I've also run the machine through Apple Hardware Test (basic and extended) with and without the extra RAM, and spent lots of time in Disk Utility. No matter what, applying 10.3.2 now relates in a messed-up system.

My case has actually been escalated to Apple engineering (never before has any problem of mine ever made it to the people who WRITE the operating system!) and I or others on the forums might still think of other things to try while they mull it over (and take a holiday break). :)

Obviously, 3-4 machines out of 300,000-500,000 machines sold is a VANISHINGLY small percentage known (to me) to have this particular problem. We've had to fall back to earlier versions to keep things stable.
-Dan "

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
"The installation of 10.3.2 went smoothly for me. Just after the installation, everything was working accordingly. However, eventually I found out the system chokes to the death. After a boot, the system works normally. Eventually, it seems that the system is stuck somewhere and won't comes back. That is, I can not really execute any new command. A finder is still functional as long as I don't launch anything. An only way out is to reset the machine.

By looking at the context, it seems to be related to network communication. Then, I moved my machine to another location. Now I do not have the choke to death problem any more. Obviously the two location has different network router. The first location uses D-Link internet router and the second location uses Airport Extreme Base Station. Maybe a IP routing mechanism may be something to do with this problem. Except this, my machine functions pretty smoothly, although I did not notice visible improvement from 10.3.1 yet.

I use PowerBook G4 1.25GHz FW 800 with no third party kernel extensions. The problem occurred with or without use of Airport wireless connection.
-Shinji "

So far no networking (airport ext. base sharing cable modem) problems here with 3 machines running 10.3.2.

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
"I had a similar problem to the one that Matt P had: Opening System Preferences and one of the SP items causes SBBOD, immediately after the 10.3.2 update. At least we both know it happened to someone else .

I had already installed the G5 fireware 5.1.4 update. Repairing the disks or permissions didn't help any.

I then did a fresh, clean (nuke the HD) install of 10.3, then all the updates. No other software other than the OS. Same thing happened.

Just to further waste time, I nuked the HD again, installed 10.2.7. Upgraded to 10.3, did software updates to get to 10.3.2. Now that I notice it, I seem to have all or most of the problems Matt has. I did try all the "sudo" commands that Marc L suggested.

Think I'll install one more time and not do the 10.3.2 update. (grin)
BTW, my hardware: G5, Dual 2.0ghz, 160gb SATA, 4GB RAM, Superdrive
-Greg "

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
"after upgrading.. suitccase X11 began giving me this message and hanging (not hiding):

"suitcase is initializing. this will take a few moments."

Here is what extensis told me:

" Greetings...
If Suitcase is stuck 'initializing' you have too many fonts active in your system. To clear these out, empty the Hard Drive: Library: Fonts folder as well as the Users: yourname: Library: Fonts, remove all fonts except the following 5 from your System Folder/Fonts, Charcoal, Chicago, Geneva, Monaco and New York (We not recommend modifying the System: Library: Fonts folder). Next search all local drives for the 'AdobeFnt' and trash all files you find. Then reboot your machine.
Regards, Extensis Technical Support"

I've not added any new fonts or apps since running the 10.3.2 update so shouldn't suitcase function as before?
David "

You'd think. If any other Suitcase users have seen this problem (or not) let me know. (don't use it personally)

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
Hey Mike,
I have a 12" 867 G4 powerbook and a DP 800 quicksilver
The quicksilver has a combo usb2/firewirecard, an adaptec 20160n scsi card (no drives attached yet) w/ the latest firmware and drivers, an Acard ata133 raid card (not the boot volume, that is stock) w/ two maxtor drives attached, the usb bus has two powered hubs, a wacom and a belkin Nostromo N50 pad attached. 1. GB of ram, Nvidia geforceTi 4600. Kensington optical trackerball, macally keyboard.

Both the powerbook and dp800 have only the desktop manager, menumeters and temperature utilities running in the BG, no real exotic haxies or anything... (I'd still check any 3rd party addons for 10.3.2 compat. - if in doubt - remove them before updating to eliminate them as a factor in any problems)

prior to 10.3.2, the powerbook would wake quickly from sleep and the fan would go off at temperatures higher than 140 F. The DP 800 would wake from sleep within 30 secs, I assume because of the added hardware. Over a year ago I had a problem with the DP 800 ever waking from sleep because of a driver issue with the acard raid card.

Now after 10.3.2, the powerbooks is the same but the fan goes off at 120 deg F. Waking from sleep is the same. The DP800 has problems waking from sleep....

1) If I put the DP800 in deep sleep, it wakes up OK
2) If it goes to mild sleep with no apps launched, say at the login screen, it wakes fine.
3) If it goes into mild sleep with apps launched (like Mail or Safari), the monitor wakes up, but the keyboard and mouse doesn't respond. They both still get power, the key caps light still toggle, Just no mouse on screen, no response to keyboard commands from computer. Only remedy is to induce a deep sleep prior to it going to mild sleep on its own, or to force a reboot after its frozen after a mild sleep..
I reset the Pram and no change.....
Does this sound familiar to anyone? thanks!!
Arthur A.
(He later wrote)
I only reset the Pram... the problem continues... then I "forgot" to put the computer to sleep and it went into a non-deep sleep mode.. .. the mode that causing me problems before... and the problem has ceased for now... I can wake up the system from non deep sleep as well as from deep sleep... I can;t exactly attribute it to resetting the pram directly as I've had to reboot from non-deep sleep several times to wake it before it just started to work again....
I'll keep you posted.... "

I asked if he had tried the usual voodoo (RP, disconnecting and reconnecting USB devices, etc. - see examples below)

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
"Hi Mike, ran 10.3 and 10.3.1 flawlessly on a PB 667 DVI, w 256MB. Ran 'repair permission', installed 10.3.2, ran RP again. No errors reported at any time.
Power-up to log-in screen was 20-30 secs slower, noticeably stalling when just before log-in appears. Finder then takes noticeably longer to appear. General performance after this seems normal, though graphics drivers seem to have improved window scrolling/dragging/re-sizing. My Wireless LAN / internet settings / DHCP then went loopy. Couldn't see network, then could but didn't get address, finally got address but DNS look-ups failed. Basically removed all settings, re-booted, re-inserted settings. Still no joy. Rinse repeat three times, finally works. Definite screwiness.

The slow-start was bugging me, tried re-boot, reset NVRAM, more repair permissions. No joy. Then installed the security update (with rumored 10.3.2 fixes) and ran (force pre-binding/re-binding):

sudo update_prebinding -root / -force

as suggested by MacOSXHints.com. (see also earlier reader report with this tip and others from the terminal)
Et voila - system back to v useable, with no real delays.
In short can't say if it was the 'security update' or the forced pre-binding, All in all, it took a few days to bed in, but it seems to be there now.
Gary "

I used cocktail to do that since I had it handy (and clean caches, run maint. cron scripts, etc.) but really didn't see any change in delays, etc. (they were really not that noticeable on this PB G4 and no networking or other problems here w/10.3.2 on 3 macs.)

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
"Main Mac is G4 Power PC-800 mhz. None of these problems were evident in 10.31.

Problems since installing 10.32.
Epson 1270 starts to print but has communication problem with mac at 1st attempt to receive more of the print cache. Causes printer to stop. and if restart print job is chosen, the paper just ejects and the print cache go away.

Safari. Quits randomly every so often, about 5 times in the last two hours. When trying to access bookmarks, it takes 4 or 5 seconds for bookmarks to appear in drop down list.

Finder. There is a time delay when clicking icons. When I 1st click or right click any icon I see spinning beachball for 4 or 5 seconds. Then it either opens or screen appears with right click.

Canon Scan 2710. Will no longer scan through scsi port, even though the scanner is recognized. I use Vuescan and it sees scanner but hitting the scan button results is some scanner noise, but no actual loading of the slide for scanning.

Overall performance. It seems to take slightly longer to open applications.

All of these problems go away if I use my TI G4 PB with 10.3.1 still on it, so it looks like the problem are just related to the 10.3.2 upgrade. I have repaired permissions and done a forced file check, but no problems were noted. Also have run disk warrior, but nothing changed. I intend to reinstall and archive to 10.3 and see if this fixes these new problems.
James W "

In the past, sometimes OS X updates had USB problems that were helped by even simple things like disconnecting and reconnecting the device. I'd also try some of the terminal tips here also before doing that.

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
"You made a comment about receiving no (or little) positive feedback about 10.3. (Actually what I said was that we're all 10x or more likely to have problem reports sent than all OK. As I said repeatedly here - I have 3 macs (PB G4, Dual G5 and MDD G4) all running 10.3.2 fine-Mike)
Well, I upgraded to 10.3.2 the other day (Saturday) and have had no problems with it all. Everything seems to be working fine and I did notice a speed boost (small) after installation.My system:
G4/400 (AGP), 1GB RAM, 5 HDDs for a total of about 200GB of Space (The boot dive is 40GB), OS 10.3.2
Paul "

(added Dec. 24, 2003)
"Updated to 10.3.2 on a 15" TiBook (667 MHz) I have also encountered the problem of the screen flickering or "stuttering". It does seem to coincide with disk accessing at the point you can hear the slightly audible click of the hard drive. At worst, it can happen once every few minutes or even once a minute. At other times it doesn't happen at all. I haven't been able to force it to flicker with any tricks I know

Also, my internet sharing via airport no longer works correctly. Others are able to use my drop box or ichat through rendezvous, but any access to the LAN or beyond is not possible. No firewalls were ever enabled and yes, permissions were repaired.
John L "

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"Some real strange stuff on the ibook 14inch 800mhz with 10.3.2 and a one-day old airport.

I am sure there is something nasty for my ibook in the 10.3.2 release. Getting kernal panics so often I can barely book (boot?). Getting black screen of death or garbage all over the screen. Kind of like interference, with or without the airport in, no other devices or mods from stock.

It is running now after unplugging the battery for a few hours, but only in safe mode. Even crashed while booting the panther install disks.

Battery update is only a few days old, and no new airport software was installed last night, but it is the video which is going nuts. I see static on the screen a few moments before kernal panic. Disk util, fsck, hardware test, etc do nothing. Even crashes in safe/verbose mode sometimes.

(one reader replied to this post saying in some cases this may be hardware related:

" Ibook mother boards are failing left and right. I had the video going nuts, garbage on screen, and kernel panics too. My iBook 700MHZ had to go back to Apple for mother board replacement. Fortunately it was free under warranty.
Roger" "

Anyone know how to rollback to 10.3.1 with old video drivers avoiding a complete clean?
Nick D. "

I asked if he had any 3rd party OS mods/haxies, etc. installed. (or the nvram patch/mod for dual display support) and if it was reliable if booted from CD. (i.e. boot from the 10.3 CD, exit the installer and run Disk Utility to repair the disk and run repair permissions.) It sounds so unstable booted from HD that I'd not want to suggest running the terminal tips noted by another reader here or running DU from the boot disk. Even resetting the NVRAM may be worth trying as a last resort.

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"I have had an odd problem ever since upgrading to Panther, and I thought 10.3.2 would be the cure but sadly not. I'm writing to share my experience after reading about the individual with the Apple CRT monitor, ATI video card and the black screen problem. I have a off-brand LCD (KOGi L7EH) 17in monitor that I bought on sale at CompUSA. It's an OK monitor and Jaguar recognized it right off and played well with it.

Panther has been a different story. I have problems with some full-screen games (Finding Nemo and Neverwinter Nights Demo, to name two) that won't display video. Other full-screen games will work and sometimes even those will get screwed up and display at full-screen resolution in a corner of the screen.

I am using an ATI 7000 PCI video card in a B&W G3 with an OWC 550Mhz G4 upgrade. I expected the new drivers in 10.3.2 would fix these problems, but no such luck. When I start one of the offending games my screen goes black and it says "Out of Range- H-53.8Khz V- 85.2Hz" The monitor is set to 60Hz for resolution and 85Hz is out of its capabilities. I've tried it at other resolutions but no love there either.

I haven't found a solution to my problem so I'm sorry I can't share a tip, but I thought I'd pass along another odd video issue with Panther and the 10.3.2 update. Here's the profiler readout of my video (note that it says my monitor is a CRT when it's really an LCD!)

ATY,RV100:
Type: display
Bus: PCI
Slot: J12
VRAM (Total): 32 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x5159
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-85501-208 (latest I think)

Display:
Type: display
Display Type: CRT
VRAM (In Use): 32 MB
Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes

ATY,RV100ad_B:
Status: No display connected

Thanks for a great site and happy holidays!
Rob E.
(he later wrote he was using the VGA port and sent more comments)
The profiler report listing the monitor as a CRT really burns my bacon. I queried folks on the Apple discussion boards and a number of Panther users have an incorrect listing. I don't know if that is the basis for my problems or what. I don't know where that information is stored or if it is possible to change it.
Funny thing is, in my displays menu, it lists my monitor by model- L7EH, so it most be getting some feedback from the monitor.

I've tried fooling around with config files for the games. I can get Finding Nemo to run in windowed mode, but have had no luck with Neverwinter Nights. I'm not too sure of myself with these Unix files!

I've run repair permissions and prebinding on multiple times. I'm always suprised at how many permissions are wrong each time.
I have the 2.08 firmware in the Radeon and it works just fine (most or the time.) I do get that weird shadow under the desktop icon text when I fiddle with the resolution or force-quit a game that won't run.

I have other full-screen games that work fine and I never have a problem with full-screen in the iTunes visualizer (my frame rate fluctuates between 13 and 46fps- weird!) Just with a select few. Of course, the first problem after the Panther upgrade was that Bejeweled would crash when trying to go into full screen. That's my wifes favorite game and boy was she mad!

I've run all the ATi recommended updates and bug fixes to no avail, but thanks for the suggestion. (Note - do not install older ati retail card driver updates in 10.3.x - they were posted for older OS X versions and drivers were made to use older OpenGL versions-Mike)
It continues to be a head-scratcher for me. "

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"Hi Mike, I just updated my iBook 800 from 10.3.1 to 10.3.2. Due to reasons beyond my comprehension, an authorized Apple service center installed a UNSUPPORTED Sony CRX-810E combo drive in my iBook when the original one went south. Since then I've been using hacks to enable burning in iTunes and Finder in Jaguar and Panther.

In 10.3.1, after I replaced the whole DiscRecording framework (with modified profile), the Sony drive appeared as "Apple Supported" in System Profile and was recognized by both iTunes and Finder. After updating to 10.3.2, it became "DRDeviceSupportLevelUnsupported", but all the disk burning ability remained. So I'm happy to report that the 3rd party burner hack still works in 10.3.2
Cheers, Charlie "

That mod was noted as an original (w/full support) mod in the previous article here on Panther burn support mods. I had wondered what would happen if the entire frameworks was replaced (w/older build/edited) when apple released a 10.3.x update.

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"Ext LaCie HD firewire 800 & Canon DV cam can't be used together

Since the 10.3.2 update, my LaCie 250Gb Firwire 800 drive and my Canon DV cam can't be conected at the same time to my G5 dual 2Ghz. Final Cut 4 won't recognize there is a camera present when plugged into the front/back firewire soccet. The ext HD cannot be 'ejected' and the system can't be shut down whlie the camera is connected (it just freezes, until I disconnect the camcoder firewire cable). I tried with another camera but then the problems are the same.

With the HD detached from either the firewire 400 or 880 port and plugged into the USB 2.0 socket, eveything works fine. Very dissapointing, because the firewire 800 socket was one the reason I bought the G5 for all of my video-editing...
FRithjof "

Is anyone else seeing this kind of problem? If so let me know.

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"Mike, I had several problems with the 10.3.2 update. The first was with IP Printers. I was unable to connect to a printer on the same subnet and on the public side of the firewall. This happened on a PB G4 and a Dual 2G G5.

The second issue was with the G5 causing the ADC 15" LCD Monitor to "auto trigger" the brightness button every 2 minutes or so in the Finder. I did the normal routine (zapped PRAM, permissions, and HD check) to no avail.

The third issue was getting a kernel panic when printing. These happened at the most inconvenient times of course.

I solved all problems by killing the Finder and Printer prefs in the system and local preferences folder. If people are having problems with any apps, they might want to move the preferences file out and see if that fixes the problem before doing more drastic fixes like reinstalling Panther.

I would definitely say that staying away from this update and wait for 10.3.3 would be advised.
David "

Is anyone else seeing these problems? If so let me know.

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"yeah ever since i updated to 10.3.2 problems , almost as bad as pc or windows. I plug my speakers in and my mac finds a way to freeze up. I'm on a dual g4 500, 10.3.0 was fine.. then okay update to fix issues, or need to say make more issues, like different apps will just quit on me, and need to say having to add the -f command is not to fun... used to just fsck -y and its fixed now have to include as fsck -y -f.
and using a raid set up having to always use terminal just to get my raid to show up.. ahhhhhhh .. too many head aches.. i had no problems with 10.3.0 the first state which im feeling is the only safe state. and updates, sounds like Bill Gates is typing the codes for them.. well I'm not happy and if i say this way maybe I should ask apple for my first refund....
Best Of LuCk,
WSP "

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"importing eudora mailboxes has been fixed in 10.3.2 prior to that the last stage window the blue progress bar would hang but the import would be successful. now the blue progress bar finishes and a dialogue box ends the transfer.
Don H. "

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"Bugs fixed with 10.3.2 update:
Awake from sleep failed to wake up the monitor 50% of the time. Now fixed.
(I asked for mac model/graphics card/monitors used-Mike)
G4, Dual 800, 2 mb L3 cache/processor, 1 gb SDRAM, nVidia (0x10de) 64 mb graphics card (22" cinema display)

Older Epson scanner now works.
(what model scanner? interface?)
Epson perfection 636 U (woops, only works with Classic mode)

GCC Elite 21 DN laser printer did not work w/10.3; Now all fixed.
Jim R. "

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"10.3.2 on a PB G4 Al 15" 512/1.25 with bluetooth keyboard
Safari quits unexpectedly
Book will not wake from overnight sleep
IE seems to work OK. Short sleeps are fine.
Jim C. "

I asked if he had tried the usual voodoo (Repair permissions, cache cleaning, etc.)

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
" I recently updated both my 15" Al Powerbook and my G4 500 Cube to 10.3.2. At the same time, without thinking, I installed Unsanity's newly updated, (for Panther), Fruitmenu. The Powerbook worked fine, but the Cube would not restart or log out without powering down. It would start fine and I could see no other effects on any apps. When I uninstalled Fruitmenu, restarts worked normally. Fruitmenu works fine on the Powerbook with no other problems at all.
Roy R. "

I generally avoid haxies/OS mods just to avoid any potential problems with OS updates.

(added Dec. 23, 2003)
"I own a Pismo Powerbook upgraded to G4 by Powerlogix.
It has run impeccably under OS 10.2.8 for some months.

I have a 40 GB hard disk and one GB of ram. The hard disk is partitioned onto:
5 MB OS X
5 MB OS 9.2.2
10 MB Tools
20 MB Work area

The OS 10.3 installer complained that it did not have enough free space to do an Archive and Upgrade, so I had to remove a few applications and deselect some items from the install list (printers) in order to get the installer to agree to do the update. I took care to prebind the resulting system, reset all the permissions, use TechTool pro to check the directory and to defragment the partition before doing anything. I had a modest but comfortable margin of 50 Mb or so when I attempted the install. I even uninstalled the few Haxies I had in place to make sure they would not disrupt the upgrade.

After going through the whole drill of checking everything, archiving the old settings and installing most of the upgrade, the installer announced it had a problem and left me no choice but to restart. There was no detail to the error message nor any way to back out. The resulting partition was unusable. I tried a reinstall to find out that the Archive and Upgrade option would no longer allow me to preserve the old settings. That failed the first time but succeeded the second time.

Once I got to where I could boot, I picked up the pieces as best I could from the archived files folder and managed to recover my mail and preferences for several applications, although it is not clear I got everything back in the right place.

The final result was a version of OS 10.3 in a partition with a number of other applications that runs just as fast as 10.2.8, but not a lot faster.

And I now don't entirely trust the OS, which is a shame as I had just made piece with OS X in the last 6 months.

The right option now would be to back up and do a fresh install, including reinstalling my Apps, but that would take longer than I'd prefer to expend right now.

The moral of the story is make sure you have LOTS of free disk space before you go to install the new OS.
And be sure you have a complete backup available if you want any kind of recourse in case the installer fails.
Larry L. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"I've just upgraded to 10.3.2 and have noticed the following problems:

(1) iSync and iCal no longer work. Stephen S. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"I am a one-week owner of a 20" iMac with 1gb RAM. I installed 10.3.2 and experienced my first system lock-up immediately after installing.
I pressed the reset button and it booted up fine. I have had no problems since then, but reading this list of update problems makes me uneasy. I switched to the Mac to avoid these sorts of problems that I have been dealing with in Windows for years! I hope these problems are not the norm.
Lance K. "

Remember we're 10x (or more) likely to get reports of problems than all-OK reports. I updated 2 Macs to 10.3.2 and so far they seem fine.

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"G5 1.6GHZ
Just tried the 10.3.2 update and rebooting gives me the spinning circle and then the fan gradually turns on and gets REALLY loud for takeoff! Reboots and powering down does nadda, still waiting to see if I can get this puppy up.
Fred "

Try booting from a 10.3 CD (if possible) and running Disk First Aid/Repair Permissions from the CD's disk utility (helped one G5 owner - but I've not seen the problem here.) (He later wrote that did not help and that apple thinks it's a hardware issue)

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
iTunes produces severe static and actual slow down of a song when playing -- a few seconds into a song it begins to produce stuttering static noise and then slows down the tempo only to mostly clear up and play on, although intermittent static remains throughout the song. (I don't see this problem here on my 10.3.2 updated systems, but my music files are on the internal hard drive.-Mike)

There is a thread on Apple: Discussions: iTunes Mac (http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?50@@.599e14b1) where I and a few other posters round out the issues.
10.3.2 and the fact that most of us are using external firewire drives as our source of music seem to be common denominators and not iTunes 4.2 nor the QT 6.5 upgrade.
cheers, Robert "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
The applications DVD Player and iDVD would not open in 10.3 and 10.3.1. (I didn't have that problem personally with 10.3.0/10.3.1.-Mike) The 10.3.2 update fixed these problems. My Mac is a G4 450 MHz AGP with 1 GB of RAM and Cendyne (Pioneer actually) DVR-105. These all worked fine in 10.2.x. The NVIDIA GeForce4MX 64MB video card was pulled from another Mac (I was told a Quicksilver) and purchased on eBay. This required OWC's fix. (10.3.2's updated drivers are reported to fix this issue also - which was seen with 10.3.0/10.3.1 w/Geforce4MX cards in older G4 towers like the sawtooth) I will try the 10.3 and 10.3.1 on one of my other internal drives and use the GeForce driver from the 10.3.2 update. I also have an OWC 1.25 GHz upgrade arriving tomorrow.
Thanks for all your helpful articles that gave me the guts to try all this stuff.
WAM "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
Hi, I just upgraded my new 20" iMac to 10.3.2 and haven't noticed any major problems yet. With both the upgrade to 10.3.2 and the security plus upgrade I promptly repaired permissions and ran TinkerTool System to perform the regular maintenance routines.
The keyboard and Mail seem fine and I haven't noticed anything during boot up (but wasn't really looking). The only possible problems being that iTunes has developed a nasty habit of losing it's connection to the Internet (streaming radio stations) and sometimes the Finder does little weird things (menus that refuse to pull down). I had been hoping that the upgraded drivers would fix the iMac's annoying habit of sending up a few distorted horizontal lines across the screen during games and on the screen saver (flurry), but no such luck.
I have seen this on all iMacs (15", 17" and now the 20") and would love to know how to fix this. Anyone else have this problem and know what to do to make it go away? No other significant problems or improvements noticed.
Julie
G4 1.25GHz 20" iMac with 1GB RAM and nvidia geforce fx 5200 "

If anyone else sees this (no iMac G4/Nvidia FX based systems here) or has a suggestion, let me know.

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
10.3.2 fixed issues with multiple monitors. I have a Radeon 8500, and two Radeon 7000's. Up until 10.3.2, my side monitors could only do 1856x1392 at 75hz while my main center monitor could do 1920x1440 at 75hz.
10.3.2's video update allows me to do the same resolution on each and every monitor including some larger resolutions I had never seen available before (they are at 60hz, so its bugs me to watch them for too long, but they work.)
Ben S. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
The 10.3.2 Updater crashed with an error resulting in a somehow bootable OS that could not load the Login-Window. I had to reinstall 10.3.0 from CD and then update via Software-Update.
It now runs quite well - BUT 10.3.2 still has the TV-Out-Bug. I cannot use TV-Out feature with my Radeon Mac Ediition PCI. The Displays panel in System Preferences won't load at all. Only the ATI Displays Updater 4.1.1 helps, because it adds a ATI Displays panel, which is (crappy but) able to change Displays. I still cannot change ColorSync profiles though.
Christian W. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
Hi Mike,
After using disk utility to do repair disk, and then repairing permissions, it seems that my 10.3.2 problems have been resolved.
best, Najeeb
(here's his original problem report, sent earlier)

Since installing 10.3.2 I can't get the G5 to restart - have to press the reset button on the machine itself each time I install software updates because when I press "restart" the screen goes to its blank to the base blue and hangs.
Also, I've noticed a considerable slowdown in the speed of opening programs from the dock.
regards, Najeeb
G5/1.8G single/1.5G RAM/OS 10.3.2
my second Seagate 160G internal drive is no longer recognized. It doesn't show up on the Finder and System Profiler doesn't see it either. Very disturbing indeed. (all fixed per later report) "

Anyone else seeing this sort of problem fixed by DFA/Repair Permissions let me know. (I do that routinely after updates).

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
Installed in one iBook 300 with 288MB of RAM, works much faster than the 10.2.6!! Now is a new machine!
Dani "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
I have updated to 10.3.2 and it crashed all time.
I have a overlocked G4 400 to 500 and yet I must change the L2 cache clock speed from 250 to 200 before I do anything.
When I startup, I must go in 9.2 - deleate the powerlogix startup items - then I restart to 10.3.2 ... (Anyone else see a problem with PL's cache enablers in 10.3.2? Assuming Pedro's using the latest version at PL's site.-Mike)
Ghost Recon works Bad as in 10.2.8
and SOF 2 works great !
Sorry for my bad english
ciao, Pedro "

I asked Pedro what graphic card he was using and if this games and PL enabler were up-to-date.

I don't own a Powerbook G4/12in model to test this but a reader sent a note he's posted a 'fix' for the fan always on in 10.3.2 for some PB G4 12in owners:

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
Hi Mike, I've created a little app called "Silent Night" that takes care of the PowerBook Fan issue related to PowerBook G4 12in Rev. A. The installer reverts the fan's settings to their original state before the 10.3.2 update. The installer is located here:
http://homepage.mac.com/idrivex/silentnight.dmg
Thanks.
Chris T.
(I asked Chris for more info)
In the 'rev B' model, the fan already comes on at 125 degrees F. The 10.3.2 update brings the fan / temp. threshold in line with what was already on the 'rev b' models. 'rev A' Only
Before 10.3.2 Update, Fan would come on at 138 degrees F and shut off at 125 degrees F After the 10.3.2 update, Fan would come on at 125 degrees F and shut off at 116 degrees F.
As I'm sure you know, just operating the 12" PowerBook will bring the temperature in the 125-130 degree range without much effort, so that fan continuously stays on now pretty much. Chris T. " "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Have had nothing but headaches since upping to 10.3.2
First Mail crashed and my address book was wiped out. (a previous reader noted this also) Realized a possibly newly corrupted AddressBook.data file was to blame. Replaced it with a backup version and voila, address book restored and mail restored.

Was happy to see that finally fax functionality and modem sounds were on (they had never worked before). Unfortunately Mail continues to lose it's preferences and account data, this has to be restored several times a day, and other preferences such as Safari and Desktop also randomly reset to default settings for no apparent reason.
Not happy with this update at all :(
Nicole
emac/10.3.2
(Nicole later wrote)
I ran permissions but still had problems for a while. They seem to have settled down now though. No idea why! "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Installed 10.3.2 AND Security Update 2003-12-19 on:
1) G4 1GHz 12" Powerbook w/512MB
2) G4 876MHz 15" Powerbook w/512MB
3) G3 300MHz rev1 B w/384MB and original ATI video card (16MB PCI?)
so far no problems (~48h)
David G. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Dual 2Ghz G5 Mac, 2GB Memory
Boot ROM Version: 5.14f0

After upgrading to 10.3.2 iChat, iTunes, "About this Mac", even the CD/DVD eject button on my Apple keyboard stopped working. Attempting to start iChat, iTunes (and some other programs) results it "Program not responding" and zombie processes. Can only shutdown and reboot by using the power button or a terminal and sudo a reboot or halt. System preferences comes up, but just sits there with the spinning wheel.

Apple Customer support solution: "Archive and restore and then do the updates." Doesn't work, everything installs and works, 10.3.1 and all updates until 10.3.2, after installing 10.3.2 I was back with the same problems.
Used Disk Utility to verify/fix permissions, didn't help.
Gary S.
(he later wrote:)

I have the 9800 card.
I found the problem, there were a number of similar posts on the Apple discussion board and one of the posters had found a problem with the audio kernel extension.

It turns out that the issue was the audio driver, why I'm not quite sure. I was able to replace the AppleOnboardAudio.kext that was installed with 10.3.2 (Version 2.1.1) with the AppleOnboardAudio.kext that was installed with 10.3.1 (Version 2.0.5) and it corrected all of the problems. This has worked for a number of people that were having the same problem with 10.3.2 "

I updated my G5 (dual 2GHz/9800 pro OEM card/3.5GB RAM/boot rom 5.14f0) here and knock on wood no problems like this. (Had some permissions repairs from some upgrades.) Even using external (powered speakers) seems fine here. One other G5 owner with problems just wrote running repair permissions solved it.

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"PB G4 Titanium 550. Since installing 10.3.2, my battery life has dropped from 2.5 hours down to 1 hour. Have reset the power manager, and recalibrated the battery to no avail. I think the fan may be running more often as well.
Eiron "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Hi Mike! Mac OS 10.3.2 Update has provided full Native support to my 3rd party CD DVD +/-R +/-RW drive. Any blank insterted will mount in Finder and burn. Also all Apple programs work as if the drive were native. This is with the mod I posted in your Drive database. I have installed this drive in 3 computers successfully. My B/W (upgraded with 600MHz G4) and two friends that have G4s. All now work natively.
Anthony S. "

The Misc/OS topics page here has a past article on panther burn support mods. (I asked Anthony to refresh my memory about his drive model.)

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Mike, 10.3.2 seems to have messed up my airport internet sharing (software base station) on my G5 dual.

I upgraded my wife's Aluminum PB G4 15in to 10.3.2 with no problems (so far). I had delayed installing Panther on my dual G5 as I was doing some video work and did not want any hassles. Since the PB was working fine I went ahead and upgraded 10.2.7 to Panther. After checking firewire drives and some software (no problems) I went ahead with the 10.3.2 upgrade as well as iTunes, and some others. Everything seemed fine so I continued with the Quicktime 6.5 and Security Patch upgrade.

Upon reboot I got a blank screen and my fans started to take off. (w/o the OS running the fans run at high speed/fail-safe mode as they do during HW test CD and FW target disk mode) Pushing the boot button did nothing so after the fans got really loud I pulled the power cord and rebooted. (I had this happen once before in 10.2.7 while working in Photoshop under OS9 got the spinning pinwheel and unable to access force quit. Found that the only solution was to power down. No ill effects except for lost changes in the working file)

Anyway, everything is back to normal except when I restarted serving internet via airport. My pismo (G3 500 still on OS9.2 with original airport card) saw the signal and connected to the G5 airport base station but came up with status "not available" I next tried my wife's PB15 (1g G4 OS10.3.2). Again it said it was connected to the G5 software base station, proper IP and router addresses but no internet. I next tried to have the PB15 serve the internet connection with same results. But when I used my Pismo software base station the others could connect with no problem. I did not test the airport internet service with the original 10.3 Panther so don't know if the problem related to Panther or 10.3.2. But my wife did have some problems connecting via airport initially after upgrading to Panther (G5 OS10.2.7 sharing). It wasn't much of an issue since she uses ethernet primarily and when I tried it I got it to work.

Anyone else ran into this airport internet sharing problem?
Andy
(he later wrote)
I've been reading notes on Apples Support discussions. Apparently various people been having this trouble with OS10. For some it started with 10.1 or 10.2 and got solved by 10.3 for others 10.2 worked but not 10.3, ie no consistent pattern. Their solutions tended toward turning off the firewall. (G5 has 5.1.4 firmware update.) "

I don't run a software base station personally (but no problems with an AE base w/10.3.2 on two machines using it to share a cable modem.)

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"I've got to say that 10.3.2 is the least troublesome large upgrade I remember. (Quicksilver 867, ATI 8500, 1.1 GB of RAM.)
There's only one annoyance: restarting, which I've had to do several times during this feast of upgrades, is very slow. Over two minutes. It spins the gray screen, then finds the blue and goes dead, then up pops the dock, then some writing on the menubar, then the menu, then a finder window, then DragThing, then, finally, the color wheel stops. I thought this would speed up eventually, but now, 4 or 5 restarts later, nothin' happenin'.
Jim H. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Just updated to 10.3.2 today. (mail sent Dec. 20th) I waited a few days to see if there were any big bug reports, and didn't see any, so I go ahead and do it. So, I reboot and login. It appears that there is something wrong with the system preferences. If I try to click on the Fast User Switching menu, it gives me a spinning beach ball. The same happens if I mouse over the date and time or even open up System Preferences. I can't log out. I can't open the CD drive. My login items don't start up. I can run applications, but I can't bring up the Force Quit dialog box. If I go into terminal and run top, it shows that there are three processes that are stuck, but I can't tell which they are.

So, I call up Apple to try and get this fixed. We try a few things. He has me restart with a safe boot, and everything works just fine. Restart normally and the problems are there.So the guy has me do an archive install. This works just fine, so I redo the patch. The exact same thing happens. Now, they're telling me that it must be a third-party conflict and the only way to fix it is to completely wipe the drive and start over, reinstalling each third party app that I've got until the problem happens again, thus indicating which app is responsible. However, if (no further text - asked for rest of the sentence)
-- Matt P.
(he later wrote)
my system info:
Dual G5 2.0GHz
512 MB Ram
128 ATI Radeon Pro "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"10.3.2 AOL problems (referring to a previous reader report below)
I wish I had a tip or a solution, but I don't. This the first report I've seen that duplicates a problem I've been having. It's not limited to AOL, but appears fairly frequently when accessing any web site. Upon attempting to navigate somewhere, Safari slows down as if it's not receiving anything from the site. It never comes back. Attempting to launch any other application just causes it to bounce in the dock. You can't even pull down Finder menus.

I didn't experience this under 10.3.1, but suffered numerous kernel panics, so I grabbed 10.3.2 quickly. Now this. I've done a clean install, including a completely wiped disk. I've installed no programs other than what's on the Panther CDs and the Apple automatic upgrade. Having heard things about DRAM issues, I pulled the RAM and tried it one chip at a time. Got the problem each time. Hardware diagnostics reveal nothing. I finally partitioned my drive 2 ways. I installed Jaguar on one partition and Panther on the other. I applied all upgrades to both. Jaguar works fine and Panther keeps hanging.

FWIW, I'm driving a DP-800 (Quicksilver) with 1.5 Gig of RAM. Needless to say, I'm staying in Jaguar for the time being.
Best regards for the holidays.
Michael C.
(He later wrote (Dec. 29th post above))
I found that explicitly specifying the DNS routers will allow the machines to work. "

I've has several comments like that regarding Safari after the update.

(added Dec. 22, 2003 )
"Here's a weird one after upgrading to 10.3.2 including (Dec. 19th) updates (from a clean install mind you) I suddenly couldn't throw anything in the trash anymore, every time it told me that the item had to be deleted immediately. A short session with the Terminal showed that the owner and group of several items (including .Trash) had been changed to root unknown instead of (in my case) hpr hpr . . . sudo chown made short work of that and lo and behold everything works again as it should (BTW running repair permissions from the disk utility did NOT fix this problem . . . apparently it looks ONLY to system items and leaves everything in you users folder alone (even if it is nominally a system item such as the trash. (RP looks at package files for installed items to correct permissions if needed)

In other news the apropos command had been hosed on my computer . . . the whatsis (whatis.db I assume) database was missing in /usr/share/man . . . copying one from Jaguar restores functionality though the output isn't pretty. Also I have a scrollback problem when displaying man pages . . . . haven't solved that one yet.

Other than those three (minor) problems everything seems to be working fine at this point (knock on wood)
Hans "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"After installing 10.3.2 and the Other Updates which came out the same time i didn't notice any problems that is till I started Mail which according to the info that came with the update was supposed to have a few bugs fixed. Mail came up without a window and froze.
Trying to start other applications in the dock only gave me a bouncing icon and Apple Alt Esc didn't respond. So a Hardware Reset was needed. I tried this 3 times and the Problem stayed. Safai worked.
Then I remembered that it is best to repair Permissions after a install of any major Software package and A A System Update does count as a Major update.
Once i did that My Mac works as it should. The Only Question is Why Apple which seems to run a Pre-binding (Optimizing System) as Part of a Install doesn't at least run a Repair Permission for those parts of the System which it updated.
I hope this Helps Stephan H. "

I too wish they'd do that to remove the entire question of permissions. I run RP after every update and maybe that (or the fact I avoid any OS mods/addons/haxies) may be why in general I've had few problems with OS X updates.

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Updated to 10.3.2 on a 15" TiBook (667 Mhz)
The one problem encountered is that the screen will flicker or "stutter". It seems to coincide with disk-accesses and "nice" processing on Activity Monitor. At worst, it can happen once every few minutes or even once a minute. At other times it doesn't happen at all. The only times the screen has flickered before the update were due to power surges and the like. Maybe it's the new video drivers, or possibly the battery update but I don't know if these are affected on this model.
Earl W. "

Reader Tip for Slow Boot/Startup:

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Just want to include my 2¢.
17" iMac 1ghz, with1GB ram, no airport extreme or bluetooh.

I updated to 10.3.2, and noticed startup time (time from power-on to desktop) was noticeably slower. I took a page out of a friends maintenance playbook, launching terminal and using the following commands:

sudo update_prebinding -root / -force
(reboot computer)
sudo periodic daily
sudo periodic weekly
sudo periodic monthly
(reboot computer)

The above sped up my system - the prebinding is what normally is being done when installers show "optimizing system". The other commands launch disk maintenance routines that would run if your computer is running 7/24, but can be manually done if it is not. All this stuff can be done via shareware programs like cocktail, but I'm cheap, so I just do it myself.
- Marc L "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Yep. I had problems installing 10.3.2. The installer would refuse to install the update after a certain point. I tried severaI times. I login as an administrator normally. I created a new, plain vanilla user, downloaded all the updates and installed them with no problems. Logged out, then logged in as per normal. The first time the boot was a little slow, and Keychain asked me if I wanted to update all keychains to the new version. I answered, "yes.".

After that things seem to work pretty normal. Turn on boot process is about the same time as it was with 10.3.1. Stability seems normally excellent.
Arthur S. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"I performed the update on my emac 1 gig superdrive with 512mb of ram. Everything seemed to work OK. VPC 5 which I had only been able to run in window mode acted like a house on fire after the update. The speed and ability to run in full screen really impressed me since I have read about the problems many have had with the program.
Earl P. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"g3 B&W, 512 of ram, 32 meg radeon cad.
about 2x speed of boot up.
some of my key board issues resolved - I love my old adb. my left shift seems to be shot - bug or use, I know not, but the command and other keys seem to now work.
charles-michael "

ADC 17in CRT User Notes Improved Support:

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Hi Mike, I have a 17in Apple "Clearback" CRT that I still really like. (ADC CRT display, the one discontinued a couple of years ago. -Mike) Unfortunately, the ADC connector means upgrade choices for the graphics card are limited. (the adapters only work with digital flat panels) (The CRT ADC display draws a LOT of 28V power, literally the max possible to source from the Tower Power Supplies and more than the usual DVI-ADC adapters source-Mike)
When the retail Radeon 9000 Pro was released with ADC port, I bought it as soon as I could find one. I've been quite happy with it, but it had an annoying bug where it wouldn't sense the available resolutions right, resulting in a black screen when starting a game for the first time or when playing iTunes' visualizer fullscreen etc. I'd become pretty adapt at manually editing config files so at least games would work, but it was very annoying non the less. I had emailed ATi but never heard back from them. (This issue was commented on in the forums here in the past. ATI has a tech doc on the issue also - linked in the FAQ here.-Mike)

I'm very pleased to say that this latest 10.3.2 update finally fixes all problems. The display pref pane only lists one frequency per supported resolution now and I haven't been able to produce a black screen from any of the apps that caused trouble before. Better late than never, I guess :)
regards and kudos for running such an invaluable site,
Kees "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Updated my powerbook G4 to 10.3.2 a few days ago, and everything keeps going very well !!
Jos H. "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"I installed the 10.3.2 update on my iMac (15" flat panel ) G4 800 and the Mail program stopped working. When I start up Mail, the icon bounces a couple of times on the Dock then just sits there with the little triangle under it. The interface does not appear at all. Worse, I cannot start any other programs. Their icons just keep bouncing on the Dock. I cannot shut down the computer except by pressing the little button at the back of the machine.
Esme "

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"Update 10.3.2 installed and is running well. The only problem that I had is that after the update, the computer would not restart. It stopped at the blue screen requiring a power down with the power button. It does not seem to have had any negative effects.
G4 MDD Dual 1.25 GHz.
Ken M. "

Not seeing that problem here on both 10.3.2 updated Macs. But that makes at least 3 readers noting a restart problem... (including the next report below)

(added Dec. 22, 2003)
"After installing 10.3.2, start up was 4x longer. Tried it a few times and it was consistent. Ran Mac Janitor and Disk First Aid from the 10.3 CD and problem is gone. Actually it seems to boot faster than 10.3.1.
Mark C. "

I ran pre-binding, 'all' scripts (cron/maintenance), etc. using cocktail and didn't see any real benefit on the PB G4 (which does seem a bit slower to boot than before but not terribly bad.) On the off-chance it would help, I also ran FA from the OS X 10.3 CD, didn't seem to change things but it might for some.

(added 12/19/2003)
" Seems to have totally wiped my address book!
Alan B. "

(added 12/19/2003)
" The first time I rebooted after 10.3.2, the trackpad on my 17" albook (1 GHZ) didn't function at all, though I was able to plug in a USB travel mouse I keep around, and that worked fine. After I rebooted, though, I did get trackpad functionality back. Weird.
Selma M. "

(added 12/19/2003)
" 10.3.2 has been installed on an ibook 600 640MB ram, all updates (my sisters), ibook G4 933 640MB ram all updates(gift for my brother), and my tower gigabyte ethernet machine with Giga 1.4ghz processor 1.25GB of ram, 2 120GB maxtor harddrives with not a single problem. The update fixed a problem with my ATI 8500card. It used to show 32MB vram, it is not corrected to 64MB and doesn't get weird pixels flying around after it goes to sleep and wake up. (weird past problem, hard to explain).
I also noticed that Airport file transfers became much more reliable and feel quicker. (I am copying over all sorts of stuff to the ibook i'm giving as an x-mas present to my brother. )
This is one of the best updates i have run, it seems to have cleared up all the little weird problems i was having that i couldn't pinpoint.
Maybe i'm lucky though :)
Nick "

(added 12/19/2003)
" Hi, I just want to say since I got my Dual 1.8 G5 the day after Thanksgiving, that I have not had a single problem with it. Every app runs fine, start up times are blazing fast at 19~22 seconds, nothing has broken, and I'm very satisfied. I have done every update and firmware fix since I got my machine and it's been nothing but smooth, fast sailing. I can't understand why so many mac users have problems. My PC gets used maybe 5% of the time now. :)
Tim W. "

One important thing to keep in mind is that (with anything - not just software and computers) - you're more than 10x more likely to hear about problems than from those that have none. That's just human nature.

(added 12/19/2003)
" I've encountered the following problem after installing OS X 10.3.2 Panther update on my G5:
When I launch AOL for Mac OS X I get the following error:

Configuration Warning
An error occurred reading the startup configuration file. Please contact your administrator. ReferenceError: AAAAAAC3IHIWSCsABQAAAAESWHRyZW1llFZpZGVvIENs

AOL continues to login normally but is there any way to get rid of this annoying error?
thanks!
Ryan S. "

Sorry, I don't use AOL and don't know what that means.

(added 12/19/2003)
" On my iMac G4 800 I had updated Panther to 10.3.2 (together with the Apple Remote Desktop Client and some other updates). After that I could not get Mail to work, it hung and the computer needed a hard reset. The Apple helpdesk went throught the usual checks, it was not my home folder or prefs. They recommended an archive and install of 10.3.
After trying the usual tricks (plist removal) I still had the problem.
I did the archive and install of 10.3 and Mail worked again. Then I tried the update to 10.3.2 and again the same problem: Mail breaks and hangs the computer.
For more info see:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0116902/ -Hetty L. "

I've not had that problem here w/10.3.2.

(added 12/19/2003)
" I just updated to 10.3.2 this afternoon and now my mac is again broken. I can't start up iChat, Medal of Honor, or force quit them. Also I cannot connect to my other mac via appleshare. This is the second time installing an update has screwed up my G5, and quite angering. Thanks for serving the mac community and resolving these annoying problems.
-Michael H.

(I asked if all OpenGL games refused to run or just MOHAA. If all, then I asked he check that opengl was installed. Odd I know but after one report that it wasn't I'm just curious. If just MOHA is a problem, (assuming it's up to date) - trashing the MOAHH config file would be worth trying if all else seems ok (drivers/GL, etc.). -Mike)
I believe that OpenGl is installed because it does not give me the same errors that I got when I ran MOHAA on my 9600. Those errors occurred whenever I did not have OpenGL installed or an OpenGL compatible graphics card. The G5 just stops loading the game when the screen goes orange, and just stays that way. iChat will bounce and then act like it loaded in the dock, but nothing come up. When I try to go to the apple menu, it just locks up, and I cannot force quit. I just have to turn off my computer. After all of this I've given up and done an archive install of Panther for the third time. I'm not going to do any of the updates until Apple figures it out. "

I wish I had the answer for everyone's problems though, or could repeat most of them on my systems so I know it's a common issue.
On the G5 here w/10.3.2 (9800 Pro, all updates applied incl 5.1.4 firmware) MOHAA launches fine (quick saved game test OK) and I haven't seen any real problems so far with 10.3.2 on that system but I've not done any real long-term game playing on it recently.

(added 12/19/2003)
" So far I haven't had any KP's or freezes or unexpected quits in 2 days of use. After updating to Panther I have had daily KP's and freezes and tons of unexpected quits, especially with Safari. I was beginning to feel like I was using OS 9 again. With Jaguar I never had any OS problems and very few quits.
B&W G3 w/XLR8 G4/500
ATI Mac Radeon PCI
Atto UL2D w/two 18 gig Atlas 10k II SCSI drives
one 120 gig ATA drive
-Kevin B. "

(added 12/19/2003)
" Hi Mike, After the 10.3.2 update my B&W quite frequently freezes when I try to minimise a window (most notably Safari and Internet Explorer). I haven't tried a lot of other applications and I don't intend to for obvious reasons. I have to press the reset button to restart the computer each time.
It's fitted with a ATI Radeon 7000 MacEdition, an OWC G4 500 upgrade (OC:ed to 550). Prior to the 10.3.2 upgrade the screen had a yellow flicker during start-up. That disappeared, but now I suffer these frequent freezes instead. I had PCI Extreme enabled until now. I tried to disable it but its still active (since Expose still works). i intend to revert to 10.3.1 during the weekend.
Regards, Michael
(he later wrote)
Hi Mike, After reinstalling Panther and updating my system with all updates since its release (not the 10.3.2 update obviously) the freezes are now gone. It seems if the OC:ed CPU had nothing to do with the freezes. Expose worked right out of the Panther box on my B&W without any PCI Extreme tinkering. (FYI - Expose does not require Quartz Extreme support)
Regards, Michael "

Altough it may not always be a factor, if -any- problems happen when OC'ing a CPU, back off to the stock speeds just to rule that out of the equation. (And it can sometimes cause intermittent corruption which can lead to problems in the first place.) I used to think Expose required Q.E. but it doesn't (verified by readers w/o Q.E. enabled cards) - fast user swiching effect requires Q.E. I think.

(added 12/19/2003)
" I get the Internet Connect thing too, (Internet Connect error dialog) when I wake from sleep. Also, startup is slower. Stalls on the last item, and then desktop takes a while to appear.
G4 Sawtooth.
Later, SCB "

Slower startup/boot times seems one of the more common comments.

(added 12/19/2003)
" Hi, I've just upgraded to 10.3.2 on a dual G4 1.25 ghz 1.75 gb ram. I can report a very very low boot performance. About three times slower than 10.3.1. Two minutes and a half to start... It don't seem to affect performance in general, but is very annoying. Anyone experience the same?
Frederico"

Yes.

(added 12/19/2003)
" Hey Mike, I got a dual g5 a little less than a month ago. Well I had to have the logic board replaced before I got a chance to use it. Everything was cool until I updated to 10.3.2 two days ago. I updated, rebooted then I get a finder hang. It just freezes, you can't pull down "about this mac" or load anything in sys preferences... the eject key didn't work either. Some apps did work however (CCC).

I though ok well something got screwed up. carbon copy cloned my system then applied a fresh install on stock hardware. Applied the update and same thing happened. I took it back to the apple store yesterday. I'm really bummed out. This is my 2nd mac and this is the second time i've had a major problem with an update. (first time was with my dual 867... firewire ports stopped working with 10.2.8) The weird thing is that it worked fine without the newest update applied. I did update the firmware on the g5 prior to installing the update. It was working fine with 10.3.1.
Patrick V "

I installed the 10.3.2 update on a dual G5 here (which also had the 5.1.4 firmware update applied) and it seems ok. (Applied all the other updates to date also - had some odd permissions repairs though but otherwise seems ok).
But I know the feeling about QC - the last 4 macs I've bought all have needed some sort of repair (and even a brand new PB G4 17in has a strange/loud fan noise when it kicks on high speed - like the blades are literally rubbing something. Scared off a buyer. What is it about Apple and fans - they do beautiful designs, and fall down on a $10 fan, Which reflects very poorly on the system to the end user.)
Yet some older Mac models have run 24/7 for 3+ years, and my 1998 PB G3 wallstreet is still running (although the PCcard slots went south).

(added 12/19/2003)
" Hey Mike I just got a new Apple Dual 1.25GHz G4 (512MB/80GB/Superdrive/GeForce 4 Ti) over a week ago. It came with Panther 10.3 installed and I upgraded to 10.3.1 without any issue. It would boot in less than 20 seconds from being off and reboots were about 15 seconds. Also it never seemed to run louder than my old BWG3 (although I've only had this Dualie for about 11 days).

So the other day I upgraded to 10.3.2 and after reboot the first thing I noticed was the Fans coming on high speed. I thought the computer was about to takeoff into space. also the boot took over a full minute to come up. It was really weird almost as instead of the slick Quartz Eztreme power I got used to seems as if it has been reduced or removed. The New Dual has a nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 128MB and under 9.2.2 and 10.3.1 it is a kicking fast video card.

Also some finder weirdness that is very annoying, every time I've had to reboot the HD icons keep moving further down the screen. then when I open the main HD and view all my very organized alphabetized List view is back to some messed up Icon view using the smallest icon size.

Only good thing is Now my HP deskjet 960C printer prints documents in sequential order, Last page first through First page last. It never worked before.

Not sure if its just 10.3.2 problems as I also installed other updates QT 6.5, iTunes 4.2, DVD Studio Pro 2.0.3, and Soundtrack 1.1
Thanks, Luke R. "

I sent some suggestions for him to try/things to check.

(added 12/19/2003)
" Hi, I just thought I'd let you know that after updating my G4 500 AGP at work, it no longer spins up my external VST Firewire drive and is not present in Disk Utility.

I updated my B&W G3 350 at home and that see's the drive fine.

I've tried to reset the PMU but it's still the same. (mind you the date did not reset Maybe I should try it again).
Regards, Ian "

(added 12/19/2003)
" Odd, but on only one machine (PB G4 17in) of 3 updated to 10.3.2 has this problem. When I wake the PB from sleep now (literally every time) I get an Internet Connect error (but within seconds the connection to the base is restablished). Never saw that before and have not seen it on other systems updated to 10.3.2.
-Mike "

(added 12/19/2003)
" Installed 10.3.2 onto my G5 and can no longer log onto the PC's on my network. I was using an XP workstation as a file server, which showed up as a workgroup. After installing and rebooting this drive no longer appears.
This is especially annoying because I have never been able to get my PC to log on to any of my Macs using Windows file sharing. Now I can't get my machines to talk to each other anymore.
Maybe there is some system setting that I'm missing, I'm just finding that transferring files by Zip disk to be much less efficient than the file sharing that was working a few hours ago.
Ho hum, some people probably figure it serves me right for mixing Apples and Oranges. I do cross platform development, so I have to.
Andrew K. "

Update: here's two reader suggestions for Andrew (he may have done this already but posting just in case):

"hit the apple key plus the K key and enter the ip address of your file server in the connect to server box. If file sharing for macs is turned on on your pc this should give you a log in. (this command is also under the finders go menu). If you don't have a password you should be able to just press ok and connect once the pc is set up for macs. It works for me but I am no guru and I did want to have it password protected but never got it to work. Also you have to make all drives shareable individually for you to get them to be seen by the mac or only the shared folders on the route drive show up for the mac.
hope this helps, shawn"

And another reply:

"This may have been tried already, but I found cross platform sharing very difficult until I made sure that all machines trying to share belonged to the same workgroup. You configure that by using the Directory Access utility in the Utilities folder. Also, I make sure that the short name on both machines for my login is the same with the same password. Now it works great both ways.
-- Jeff K."

(added 12/19/2003)
" Hi Mike. We have run into an interesting problem after upgrading to 10.3.2. We are running a DualG4 gigahertz ethernet box with 512Megs of RAM and 10.3.2 and all the other recent updates released by Apple today. Firewall is turned on with only the iChat ports activated. We are using Earthlink DSL with a direct connection between the DSL router and the computer.

When accessing www.aol.com using Safari, we are able to login and get the user page. Prior to 10.3.2, my wife claims she was able to access AOL.mail with no problems. Since upgrading to 10.3.2, we can get to the user page on AOL.com (we have tried two different accounts) but when we attempt to reach AOL.mail Safari hangs and eventually the whole system stops (usually within 2 minutes). What is really odd is that the option/command/escape sequence does not work. When we attempt to click another application in the Dock, it will not launch and the individual icon keeps bouncing with no black triangle underneath it. Attempting to launch another application always hastens the freezing of the system. The only recovery is to hit the reset button or shutdown using the Power On button on the front of the case.

I have been able to reproduce this problem under two different user logins. We have run repair permissions on the main drive several times. We have not tried the terminal command window sequence to run the repair program. As far as I can determine, the OS and Safari work fine with other sites. If this problem is real, I assume AOL.com is trying to do something that is causing the system to fail. What is odd is how the entire system just essentially stops.
Any ideas of what might be happening here.
W. Robarge "

If anyone has a tip/suggestion, let me know.

(added 12/19/2003)
" Hi xlr8yourmac.com,
Here's a bug report I've submitted to Apple at devbugs@apple.com:

I believe the 10.3.2 updater has severe flaws in it. (maybe it's just me?)

After applying the update, launch Safari and enter a URL for a "slow loading" page...e.g. www.info.apple.com. Before the page has fully loaded, open another application from the Dock, e.g. Mail. Both Safari and Mail will basically grind the system to a halt and no new applications can launch...spinning beachballs etc. Sometimes it'll take a while for this bug to surface.

This problem did not exist prior to this update. My system is a Quicksilver Dual 1 Ghz G4 with a "fresh" installation of Panther.

I've also moved the 10.3.2 package out of the /library/receipts directory and tried the standalone updater. The same problem occurs.
I've also confirmed this problem on a dual 867 mirrored drive door mac.
Jin "

I can't really seem to duplicate this here.

(added 12/19/2003)
" I have been installing the developers seeds as 10.3.2 has been going through touch-ups. my initial problem in 10.3 and 10.3.1 was that expose and minimize would freeze my display. I have a sawtooth g4 with an ATI 8500 in it.
the tricky thing here is, I installed 10.3.2 seed 7d15 and it fixed my problem (probably open GL and quartz extreme issues.)
so anyway, I used the downgrader and installed 7d24 (the final version?), and the drivers seemed to have been updated back to a not-working status...
so 10.3.2 7d15 fixed my ati drivers and 7d24 reverted them back to make my expose freeze. luckily, i posted the 7d15 drivers on some of my webspace, originally to share with others, but now it allowed me to put them back into my system extensions folder. after putting the7d15 ATIRadeon8500.kext, ATIRadeon8500GLDriver.bundle and many other files back in, I fixed permissions and restarted... problem solved naturally.
anyway if you hear of anyone else with this problem, i have the drivers for ALL the video cards (http://www.proaxis.com/~beefmank/apple/) please respond if you have the time :)
-coleman

(I'm not using an 8500 with 10.3.2, but haven't seen this problem with 10.3.2 systems w/9800 Pro, 7500 mobility or 9600 mobility ATI GPUs. I did have a friend call last night with problems with a 10.3.2 update (openGL didn't seem to be present after the update/errors with the update.)-Mike)
(he later wrote)
the problem is specific to sawtooth (agp) g4s "

(reports posted 12/18/2003 follow)

" I am attaching text files of output from two Xbench tests - one from a few days ago under 10.3.1 and another from just now with 10.3.2.

Overall Score summary:

• 10.3.1:   59.93
• 10.3.2 :   78.30

I thought to do this after a MacBidouille news post suggested a 5% improvement on a G5 system. (XBench like many OS X pure benchmarks shows some variation from run/run (even with no changes to the system/software) - some have seen large differences at times on some tests, but I've not had time to run repeated tests (avg of say 10 runs) with Xbench and have already updated my G5 and PB G4-Mike)

I am using an off-the-shelf-configuration of Powerbook G4 (867 MHz).
The Xbench test run was the default setting, and I likely was in a somewhat similar operating configuration, but not the same. (e.g., was connected to a high-speed internet line with Entourage running in the background for the 10.3.2 test). (Best to run tests w/o any other apps running and after a clean reboot if possible to try and have as consistent a system state as possible)
I am anxious to try this on my B&W G3 that I just upgraded at home.
Also just ran Altivec Fractal Carbon on this same PB G4.

• 10.3.1: ~3000 - 3050 Mflops/sec
• 10.3.2: ~3250 - 3300 Mflops/sec

Apologies if this exposition isn't very satisfying. I am new to this, and have not had time yet to understand the key issues with benchmarking.
Doug"

Although real-world apps (or game) tests are preferred over pure benchmarks - any before/after tests are welcome.

" Mike, I just wanted to inform you that update 10.3.2 fixed the problems with my Nvidia Geforce 4 MX. Before the update, I reinstall the stock ATI rage 128 card because of serious performance degradations caused by system 10.3. I will send you before/after benchmarks tonight when i get home.
Aubrey S. "

"Mike, Since upgrading to 10.3.2 Safari has been useless. It crashes on each new page. I see several threads starting in the discussion area about this. I reset permissions and ran Panther Cache Cleaner on the advice from another post. No luck. Herès my crash log: (not included here for brevity)
Steve"

I have not seen any problems with Safari here on two macs (PB G4 and dual G5) after the 10.3.2 update.

" Hey Mike, did the update last night and had a very stubborn dialog that stated "Epson Scan did not start", with buttons that did not work, popped up and stayed on top of all other windows. The dialog could not be removed except by shut down. If I used restart it would show up again. I probably have too much garbage to trouble shoot easily.
G4,733 digital,1gig. superdrive
JF"

" Mike, I just wanted to let you know that this morning I installed (or tried to install) the 10.3.2 update on my Dual 867 G4. I chose to download the installer file first and then ran the package to do the install.
Everything seemed fine until the dialog saying I needed to restart my machine appeared. The button was glowing strangely (not the usual pulsating glow) and when I clicked on it it would do nothing.

Ultimately I had to hold down my power button on the machine in order to force the reboot. The installer just froze. Checking the version at the restart, it says I am running 10.3.2 and everything seems to be working alright. I backed up with Carbon Copy Cloner before the update just in case. Has anyone else reported a freeze at the end of the install process?
Jon "

Not to me.

" I have a Rev A Powerbook 12" 867 Superdrive. Just upgraded to 10.3.2 and everything seems fine BUT now the Fan comes on all the time. Many other users are experiencing this issue. It normally comes on when your doing some intensive stuff like video editing but not when I'm surfing the web and emailing.
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@227.ZRBvaj4noRL.2@.599dea38
Its really annoying and I hope they fix this as I didn't mind my computer getting a little warm as it ran really quitely.
Kevin C. "

I don't see this here on a PB G4.

" Hey Mike, Just for the record, 10.3.2 just crashed my QuickSilver 867 pretty hard. Panther panicked during the optimisation phase and since the filesystem is journaled, it seems it rolled back to a mid-install state.

The machine would no longer boot and further inspection in single-user mode showed that some frameworks where completely gone (Application Support.framework in particular)

I suppose a simple Panther reinstall will fix it but in the future, I'll have to remember to let the os update itself instead of starting a heavy render while it's busy prebinding. Serves me right.

On a way more positive note, with the new 10.3.2 nVidia drivers, I can now activate the pixels shaders in Halo on my iMac (1.25GHz 17", GeForce 5200) :)
Ben "

" I would just like to note that the new version of AppleWebCore/Safari is included. I noticed that the tool tips for the TITLE parameter in anchor tags is working now. I'm so happy now!
Phill K. "

" Hi Mike,
I can happily confirm that 10.3.2 restores OpenGL and Quartz Extreme on my G4 450 Sawtooth with OEM GeForce4MX, as well as greatly improves graphics performance all around. I had been using the GeForce driver that OWC (the supplier of my card) provided (posted here in the past - does not have QE support though), but that is clearly no longer needed. :-) I cannot believe how fast my 4 year old tower feels under OS X, thanks to 10.3.2.
-Nick G. "

"Mike, Just a FYI, 10.3.2 fixes the problem with Geforce 4MX's in Sawtooth G4's. Have had success with both a 64MB Geforce 4 MX which was a OEM Quicksilver G4 pull as well as a 32MB Geforce 4MX which was a OEM MDD G4 pull.
Quartz Extreme and OpenGL both seem to work fine, as well as dual monitor support. As always thanks for the great site.
Brendt P. "

" Seems faster overall...
BUT DID NOT FIX my 2nd display thats in 4 grayscale...
it's a ATIxclaim3dpro pci... (FAQ here had previous NVRAM mod tip that may or may not help.-Mike)
oldy but worked in Jaguar!
bummer... I have to buy a new pci video card and which one is even available for OSX ?
rR "

For currently made Mac PCI cards (retail) with OS X drivers - the only one I know of is the ATI Radeon 7000 PCI.

" Sawtooth/GeForce Issue Remains
Hi,
I just installed 10.3.2 on my Sawtooth/400 with a flashed GeForce2MX card. Everything runs fine with 256mb but it's still the black screen of death with any additional ram installed. I haven't tried playing with the extensions or anything, but it looks like this bug is still out there.
Keep up the great work - thanks!
Doug
(he later wrote
Interesting... I'm using a Sawtooth/400 with an ASUS V7100 Pro GeForce2 MX flashed with the "ASUS V7100 ROM" found at http://www.cybercoment.com/macgeforce.htm.
I see on slashdot that someone with a twinview version of the card got it to work, but it won't go for me. Maybe they disabled QE? Maybe it just works.
One other thing to try is to flash the PRAM, but I'm not holding out much hope...
Cheers,
Doug"

Since it fixed the GF4MX issue, it was hoped it would also for any 2MX owner problems in older G4 towers. (OEM GF2MX card runs fine in a Cube here even under 10.3.0.)

" Received my copy of Halo this afternoon. I was disappointed that FSAA caused large scale pixel distortion of the intro and the game itself.
WITH 10.3.2 applied, and FSAA 2X applied; the problem was corrected. I haven't tried higher settings yet (I got wrapped up in the game-and now 'm pooped!).
G5, 9800 OEM, 4GIG RAM.
Have a great Holiday to you and yours!
Frank C. "

" I just want to give an update on my 10.3.2 install problems. I ran disk warrior 3.0 on the hard drive to make sure the drive was ok. Disk Warrior found some problems including Item, File, and Folder count problems. I repaired the drive and it booted up successfully on the next restart. I am not sure whether the update caused the problems or it was just a coincidence that this happened, but it seems to be working fine now.
Chris M. "

" Good news Mike. This update fixes the problem with old ATI Xclaim cards.
Sondjata
(I asked for his mac model details and what specific Xclaim card he had)
Sorry i didn't see this before you updatd your page: I have a Sawtooth G4 450 with a Rage Pro card. 700 MB RAM.
(here's the ASP report)
Card Type: Display
Card Name: ATY, XCLAIMVRPRO
Card MODEL: ATY,GT-C
Vendor ID: 1002
Device ID: 4749
ROM# 113-43101-124
Revision: 5c
Card Memory: 8MB "

" I'm using a powerbook g4 1Ghz (titanium) and use uControl since steve doesn't think we need more than one mouse button on a laptop...
Anyway, after upgrading to 10.3.2 uControl v1.3.7 won't load. I downloaded v1.4 but it refuses to install. Hopefully this gets fixed soon....
John M. "

" Applied it to a 1.33 GHz, Al Pb 17in 1GB RAM, updating from 10.3.1.
Installed and booted no problem. Ran Verify Disk Permission and it didn't report any problems
I did notice that 'browsing' for network volumes now results in the mounted network volumes also showing up on the desktop.
-- David R. "