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Accelerate Your Mac! News Archive for: 1/18/2001 Thursday's NewsReturn to Accelerate Your Mac!

Top stories of Jan 18th, 2001:

7500 to PC ATX Case Conversion:
Paul de Haan sent info on his 7500 to PC ATX Case Conversion. Some of the photos are not as clear as I'd like, but take a look. (Note: Other ATX Conversion articles are linked in the "G3 Macs" and "Old Macs" section of the Systems Articles page.)
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New G4/533 Owner w/Nvidia GeForce2MX Reports OpenGL Gaming Problems:
(Note - See Friday's news for a followup that notes why Nick saw problems, along with other GeForce owner reports and a Review of a G4/533 with GeForce2MX.) I don't know how common this is but a new G4/533 owner reported problems (type 12 errors/crashes to the Finder) in OpenGL games. Another reader is working on a review of the new system for posting here and I've asked if he's tried running OpenGL games but have not gotten a reply yet. The problems reported may not show up in running a simple timedemo, and echoes concerns I have had about the first version of the Nvidia drivers. (I still wonder how 2D, 3D pro apps like Lightwave 3D and applications like Final Cut Pro run with the GeForce2MX - I've asked Nvidia - but they never replied with answers.)

" Hey
I got my G4 533Mhz/256Mb of ram/40Gb HD/GeForce 2 MX 3 days ago (well.. It might be what, 2 days ago for you.. Because I'm in Australia) and I'm blown away.

But, there's quite a problem with the nVidia OpenGL drivers. Whenever I load up an OpenGL based game the menu will come up all nice and how its ment to, but as soon as you launch a level and try to play, it crashes back to the Finder with an error type 12. I've Quake 3, Elite Force, Unreal Tournament (w/OpenGL support) and they all exhibit the exact same behaviour and error.

I've zapped the PRAM, re-installed (games and OS), fiddled with extensions and then I formatted just then. Although Quake 3 seems to be a little better (less crashing) the same thing still happens. So yeah, I've had a bit of fun in Quake 3, and the image quality is amazing (all the settings up @ 800x600.. And it was getting a very very smooth FPS)

I didnĚt really know who the ask for help... I posted a message in the Apple Discussion forums but no helpful answers came about (and now I can't log back in :(). I couldn't think of who I should report it too either, so I thought I'd give you a shot :)

I'm running Mac OS 9.1 (the version that came on the PowerMac G4 System Install CD) and the rest of my specs are up the top.

I had a SCSI card installed by the Apple Reseller, and I haven't removed it to see if it changes anything...

Oh well, maybe you could pass this on to someone who should really know about this.
Thanks in advance,
- Nick -
P.S RAVE, 2D and QuickTime all work wonderfully"

I've asked for more info on the game versions, etc. but if any other new system owners are running a GeForce2MX, let me know if you have any tips or are seeing any problems.

[Update: I originally replied to Nick with some suggestions, one included not allocating too much RAM to OpenGL games. He later reported that he had allocated a lot of RAM to OpenGL games and that lowering the RAM allocation helped as well as disabling iControl and Kaleidoscope. [Always disable 3rd party extensions when problems arise]. Another G4/533 w/GeForce2MX owner also replied to this post saying he had the same problems in games. I sent suggestions to him also and asked for more info.]

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Mac Java Runtime 2.2.4 Available, Fixes Security Hole
I don't see it yet at Apple's Software Updates page but running OS 9's Software Updates Control Panel today shows the MRJ 2.4.4 update which is said to solve the security hole noted here on the Dec. 18th news page.
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DVD Player 2.3 - Only in Full CD Version of OS 9.1?
[Update: One reader reported booting from the system CD and then running the OS 9.1 as recommended by Apple resulted in a DVD 2.3 player update. I just did exactly that on my Gigabit G4/500 - it *did not* update the DVD player, in fact it even removed it from the Apple Menu Items.] A reader reported that even using TomeViewer, the latest DVD Player (software decoding) 2.3 version is not found in either the multi-part or single file version of the downloadable OS 9.1 update. (I used TomeViewer here and saw the same thing.) He noted it was included on the OS 9.1 CD which you can order from Apple. He said that v2.3 added the ability to play VIDEO_TS folders from any drive and I hope it also allows playing widescreen DVD movies on a Cinema display without having to use the Fkey hack (noted on the past Cinema Display review here). I'm hoping the 2.3 DVD player will be released soon at Apple's software updates page or via OS 9.1's Software Update Control Panel. There is a v1.3 DVD Player in the downloadable OS 9.1 update, but I think that's for the DVD player that requires the B&W G3 (or G4/Yikes) models that had the Rage128 MPEG daughtercard DVD option (and perhaps PB G3 early models with the PCCard DVD decoder).
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More Filesharing Performance Tests incl. GigaBit Ethernet:
Rod Paine of VAR Astec sent an updated report on Filesharing performance with Appleshare vs Quantum's Snap server.
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Sonnet Hires Newer Tech Engineering Team:
Sonnet Technology has hired the engineers from Newer Technology (RIP). Read all about it at Sonnet's Press Release.
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Mac OS 9.1 Single File Download:
It's now available as a single file (71MB) download option at This link as well as links to updates for 3rd party utilities, Apple TIL docs on OS 9.1 and compatibility reports/tips are included on the OS 9.1 Feedback page.
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iMac and Cube DVD ROM Firmware Update
Apple has a DVD Firmware Update (no version number listed) for iMac DV+, iMac DV Special Edition, or Power Mac G4 Cube.
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Dual G4 Linux Kernel:
Barney sent early news links that included what appears to be a dual G4 kernel for (Yellow Dog) Linux at
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G4/533 w/GeForce2 MX Video Card Benchmark Performance Tests:
Updates to the Mac Game/Video Card Performance database included several results from a luckly owner of a new G4/533 system with GeForce2MX card. The ThroughPut results he listed where higher than I can remember from any system to date.

  • ThroughPut v1.4 results from New G4/2001 (533Mhz) with GeForce2MX card
  • G4Timedemo results from New G4/2001 (533Mhz) with GeForce2MX card
  • Cinebench 2000 results from New G4/2001 (533Mhz) with GeForce2MX card
  • Cinebench 2000 results with Beige G3 (w/G3 500MHz CPU) w/VillageTronic MP750/850
  • ThroughPut v1.4 results with G4/450 AGP w/Rage128 Pro
  • Quake3 (640x480) results with G4/450 AGP w/Rage128 Pro (using tweaked config file)

Total entries in the database to date: 2,335. If you haven't already, enter your results with any of the game titles or benchmarks listed on the entry page (details on how to test are there). If you're curious how a CPU upgrade or new Video card would help game performance, the search page options can help you find similar system/configurations to get an idea before you buy.
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Mac Drive Compatibility Database Updates:
The Drive Compatibility searchable database had 15 new entries added (current total 2,544). Entries from after midnight are added the following day. Note: I've added "Firewire to SCSI Adapter" as an interface type. I welcome reports on drives used with adapters. (Please note the adapter brand/model and if the drive was bootable in your comments.)

    Combo CDRW/DVD ROM Drives:
  • IDE Toshiba SD-R1002 in G4/AGP
    (not bootable as some others noted - perhaps firmware version related)

    CDROM Drives:
  • IDE Panasonic CR-594-B (48x) in Beige G3
    (report includes tests with several other generic/PC brand drives)

    CDRW Drives:
  • IDE Iomega ZipCD 8x4x32 in Beige G3
    (notes issue with data CDs, bootable/burns fine)
  • IDE Plextor PX-W8432Ti (8X4X32) in Beige G3
  • IDE Sony CRX140E (8/4/32) in B&W G3
  • IDE Yamaha CRW2100EZ (16/10/40) in B&W G3
    (problems noted)
  • Firewire Que 8x4x32 with Beige G3 (using PCI Firewire card)
  • SCSI HP 6020i in Beige G3
  • SCSI Ricoh MP7122SE with Beige G3

    Hard Drives:
  • IDE IBM 75GXP 45GB in Beige G3
  • IDE IBM 20GB Travelstar in PB G3 2000
    (see my illustrated guide to PB G3 2000 HD install)
  • IDE Maxtor 40GB in B&W G3
    (for rev 2 B&W G3s - see this guide)
  • IDE Maxtor 30GB in Beige G3
    (see Beige G3 HD Upgrade guide)
  • IDE Seagate 3.2GB in G4/AGP
  • SCSI Quantum Atlas V in 95/9600

You can find these full reports by searching the database with the drive/brand/mac models listed above selected (the latest reports are shown first in searches).
If you've added a IDE, SCSI, Firewire or USB hard drive, CDRW, tape drive, etc. make sure you add a report to the database.

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CPU Upgrade Reader Reports Database Updated:
The Rate Your CPU Upgrade database has been updated with 6 new reports (total to date: 5,097). [Entries from after midnight EST will be added the following day.]

  • OWC G3/400 in Beige G3 (rated 7)
  • Powerlogix BlueChip G3/500 in PB G3 Wallstreet2 (rated 10)
  • Sonnet G4/400 in PowerTower Pro 225 (rated 10)
  • Sonnet G3/260 in 6100/60 (rated 10)
  • Vimage G3/233 in PowerBook 1400 (rated 7)
  • XLR8 G3/300 in PowerTower (rated 10)

You can find these full reports by searching the database selecting the indicated Mac model and upgrade card brand/type. If you've upgraded the CPU on your Mac, please post an entry in the database. Search the database for entries from most every upgradable Mac model *before* you buy. (Searchable by mac model/upgrade brand)

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Software Updates, Apple TILs, Other Net News:
Reported By: Barney Buoy

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