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Top stories of Jan. 28th, 2002:

Nvidia Replies to Comments on GeForce4MX
In reply to the earlier post regarding the Geforce4MX vs Radeon 7500 where someone called the GeForce4MX basically a GeForce3MX, here's a reply from Nvidia:

" Today, Apple introduced a new Macintosh computer featuring NVIDIA's next generation, mainstream GPU - GeForce4 MX. GeForce4 MX is 3 to 5 times faster than our previous generation mainstream processor, the GeForce2 MX. In general we do not comment on or compare our products' performance to the competition. Regarding benchmarks that Apple has posted on their website you should contact Apple.

NVIDIA will be making a formal announcement in regards to our family of next-generation GPUs in Feburary - including high-end products. "

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Article with Details on 1GHz G4 CPU Chip
Silicon Strategies has an article titled Motorola pushes PowerPC to 1-GHz with SOI technology with tech details on the MPC7455. The article also comments on a new 7455 lower power version at up to 800Mhz speeds, which might appear in future PowerBook G4s. (Thanks to rtmac for the link.)
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Comments on Geforce4MX vs Radeon 7500 Performance
( In reply to the earlier post on the new G4s and graphics cards (which includes a link to Apple's Quake3 performance tests with the new vs old systems/cards.) The author of the comments asked not to be named.)

    "Mike, just a note on your recent news about the new Macs. ..
    The new machines are using the NV17 chip. This is also known as the GeForce3MX - which was long delayed. Looks like they have chosen to rebadge the chip to bridge the gap between the older chips already out there and the new line they're still working on. [Nvidia is set to announce Geforce4MX and non-MX cards in early Feb. There was a page linked in last week's other net news that had leaked specs on the GF4 line.-Mike]

    The performance charts on Apple's site show the old 2mx Quake3 score on a DUAL-800 and the ATI Radeon 7500 on a SINGLE-800. Do not let the close frame rates fool you. Put the 7500 into the same systems as the new NV17 for a fair comparison. You'll find that for a savings of $100 built-to-order you'll end up with higher frame rates as well. Plus truly seamless dual-monitor support. "

The Geforce4MX also notes dual monitor support, so not sure what the comment on "seamless" means. (I've asked for clarifcation on that comment.) See the news item above for comments on the GeForce4MX from Nvidia in reply to this post.

I also wondered how the original GeForce3 (and Radeon) would compare to the GF4MX in the same Dual G4/1GHz system. (I've gone broke buying Mac systems at retail, so I hesitate to risk a divorce and buy another Mac to post results. I've posted results of GF3 vs Radeon AGP in a Dual G4/500 and G4/733 digital audio on the video topics page last spring, but don't have a Dual G4/1GHz or GF4mx or Radeon 7500 AGP to test.)

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New G4 Towers - Up to Dual 1GHz Models, Lower Pricing
As expected for some time, Apple has updated their PowerMac G4 tower line for new models with up to dual 1GHz G4 CPUs. The Dual 1GHz model has an Nvidia GeForce4MX card (64MB DDR video ram) and SuperDrive starting at $2999. The low end is a G4/800 single (no L3 cache) for $1599 (with ATI Radeon 7500 AGP card), the 933mhz single CPU module with 2MB of L3 cache, GeForce4MX and Superdrive is $2299. As expected, these models still use PC133 SDRAM, not DDR. See the Apple store for complete details.
The GeForce4MX is one of the new line of Nvidia graphics cards expected to be announced officially [for the PC] early in Feb. There are higher end GeForce4 models expected also. Apple has a page on the new G4 tower's Graphics cards that notes some Quake3 performance tests with the original GeForce2MX dual head (DP800 system), the ATI Radeon 7500 (new G4/800) and GeForce4MX models (G4/933 and dual 1GHz).
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Mac Launcher for (Huge) NeoCairo Beta 5 Mod for Unreal Tournament
    " NeoCairo is an amazing Unreal Tournament project, and beta 5 adds 20 new levels and tons of features.

    NeoCairo Beta 5 Mac Launcher...
    Team Orbit is pleased to announce that there is a new Launcher available for those of you experiencing NeoCairo Beta 5 on a Mac. We aim to please. The file is now available (only 6k) and can be downloaded at the following link: "

Several mirrors for the (94MB) UT Mod are at the main NeoCairo site.

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Latest Bluechip G4/500 Upgrade Report from PB G3 Lombard Owner
The second Bluechip G4/500 report from a PB G3 Lombard (1999 model) noted better results than the first.

Reviewer's Name: Marco Pascucci
Date Submitted: 1/27/2002
Rating (1 to 10): 6
Manufacturer: Powerlogix Bluechip G4 upgrade
Rated Speed (CPU/Cache MHz): G4 500/250
Max Speed (CPU/Cache MHz): 500/250
Cache Size: 1MB
Mac Type: Lombard 333
Comments: I installed this upgrade two days ago. I'm reasonably satisfied. There is only one negative issue: the computer does not "sleep" properly not only under OS 9 (as clearly stated on Powerlogix's web site), but also under OS 10.1, at least on my powerbook. After going into "sleep" mode, the computer does not wake up

Apart this problem, my powerbook is more stable now than before upgrading. The highest CPU temperature I had after three/four hours of use is no more than 75 C, and the fan newer went on. As regards the use under OS 10, I strongly recommend to download Cache Control X 1.1b3 from Powerlogix's web site. Without it OS 10 is slow and Cache Profiler 1.5 is not compatible with OS 10.

I hope that Powerlogix will fix the "sleep" problem early!

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PowerBook G4 Combo Drive Upgrade Available for Order
With the new G4s taking all the attention, I forgot today was the day Apple would be taking orders for the PowerBook G4 (550/667 models only) combo drive upgrade ($299) mentioned on Dec. 19th here. See the Combo drive upgrade FAQ for details. You can order via the Apple store, Apple specialist or call 1-800-919-2775 and enter access code 72523. (Again only PowerBook G4/550 and G4/667 owners qualify for this upgrade.)
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CDRW/CD/DVD/Hard Drive /Cardreader Compatibility Database Updates
The Drive Compatibility searchable database had 23 new reports added since Friday. The database includes reports on Combo DVD-CDRW, CDROMs, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, CDRW, Hard Drives and Removables (tape drive, ORB, ZIP, MO drives, CF/Smartmedia readers, etc.) in all interface types (IDE, IDE RAID cards, Firewire, SCSI, adapters). Current total 6,357 reports. [Entries from after midnight are added the following newsday morning.]
(Note - ** Please include your CD/CDRW Drive Speed in the entry **. And please do not post questions in the database, use email for that and check the database and articles here for answers/tips/guides first. Incomplete entries, those with no comments, name, contact info, etc. are deleted.)

    SmartMedia Cardreader Reports
  • USB SanDisk SDDR-09 used w/iMac slot loading (OS X)
    (no OS X drivers currently)

    DVD-R + DVD-RAM Drive Reports
  • SCSI Lacie PD-2 LF-D100 used w/Beige G3 (OS 9.2)
    (noted some DVDs don't mount)

    Combo DVD-CDRW Drive Reports
  • IDE LG GCC-4120B 12x8x32 + 8x DVD ROM in G4/AGP (OS 9.1)
    (LG listed under "other" brands. Note FAQ has modified support files for this drive)
  • IDE Matshita CW-8571 (OEM drive from apple) in G4/AGP 2001 (OS X)
    (noted burn problems)
  • IDE Matshita 8x/8x/32 + 8x DVD ROM (OEM CW-8571?) in G4/AGP 2001 (OS 9.1)
    (drive was from a G4 2001 that shipped with the Combo drive option.)

    DVD ROM Drive Reports
  • Lite-On LTD 16-3 (16x/48x) in 8500 w/IDE PCI Card (OS 9.1)

    DVD RAM Drive Reports
  • Firewire Matshita LF-D111A used w/PB G3 wallstreet2 (OS 9.1)
    (IDE $96 drive from OWC in Sony FW case)

    IDE CDRW Drive Reports
  • Lite-On LTR-24102B 24x10x40 in Starmax (OS 9.1)
  • Lite-On (Buslink RW-2440 retail box) 24x10x40x in B&W G3 (OS X)
    (used CD drive install guide here.)
  • Sony CRX-1611 16x10x40 in 4400 Powermac (OS 9.1)
  • Sony CRX-1611 16x/10x/40x in Beige G3 (OS 9.2)

    Firewire CDRW Drive Reports
  • BusLink 24x10x40x IDE in FW case used w/G4 AGP (OS 9.1)
    (buslink listed under "other" brands)
  • Lite-On LTR-24102B 24x10x40 in OWC FW case used w/PB G3 2000 (OS 9.1)
  • Que 24/10/40 QPCRD-BP1500P (Sanyo mechanism) in ADS Pyro case used w/Dual G4 (OS 9.2)
  • Que 12x/10x/32x used w/B&W G3 (OS X)
    (using PCI Firewire card vs onboard FW ports)
  • Sony CRX175A (24x10x40) in various FW cases used w/Powerbook G4 (OS X)

    USB CDRW Drive Reports
  • Sony CRX100E/X -or- Sony CRX120E 4x used w/PB G3 wallstreet1 (OS X)
    (noted even Toast 5.1 does not work with it. Does in OS 9.x)

    IDE Hard Drive Reports
  • IBM Travelstar 60GB in PowerBook G4 (OS X)
    (used PB G4 hd upgrade guide here)
  • IBM Travelstar 60GB in PowerBook G3 2000 (OS X)
    (see PB G3 HD upgrade guide here)
  • Seagate ST380021A 80GB in Dual G4 (OS X)
  • Seagate ST320011A 20GB in B&W G3 (OS X )
    (see install guide here.)
  • Western Digital WD1200BB 120GB in G4/AGP (OS X)
    (see install guide here.)

    Firewire Hard Drive Reports
  • Lacie 60GB used w/Beige G3 (OS X)

You can find full owner reports by searching the database by drive/brand/interface/mac models (the latest reports are shown first in searches).
For guides to installing CD/CDRW/DVD drives or Hard drives in many mac models, see the IDE Articles page. The Firewire articles page also has guides on case kits, installing drives, etc.
If you've added a IDE, SCSI, Firewire or USB hard drive, CDRW, tape drive, etc. make sure you add a report to the database. [If you post an updated entry - make sure you use the same name, etc. as you did before so I can find your past entry. Thanks.]

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CPU Upgrades Owner Reports Database Updated:
The Rate Your CPU Upgrade database has been updated with 13 new reports since Friday. (total to date: 6,686). [Entries made after midnight last night are posted the next newsday morning.]

  • Other World Computing G4/500 in B&W G3 (rated 8)
  • Other World Computing G4/450 in Beige G3 (rated 7)
  • Other World Computing G4/400 in Beige G3 (rated 10)
  • Powerlogix Bluechip G4/500 in PowerBook G3 Lombard (rated 6)
  • Powerlogix Bluechip G3/500 in PowerBook G3 wallstreet2 (rated 10)
  • Powerlogix Bluechip G3/466 in PowerBook G3 wallstreet2 (rated 1)
  • Powerlogix Bluechip G3/466 in PowerBook G3 wallstreet2 (rated 1)
  • Powerlogix G4/450 in 7300/180 (rated 8)
  • Sonnet 400Mhz (didn't note if G3 or G4) in 7200/90 (rated 5)
  • Sonnet G3/500 in Beige G3 (rated 8)
  • Sonnet G3/500 in PowerBook G3 wallstreet1 (rated 10)
  • XLR8 CarrierZIF w/G3 500 Sonnet ZIF in 9600 (rated 9)
  • B&W G3/350 OC report

(Warning - Overclocking may not be reliable and could lead to hardware failure or corrupted data.) You can find the full reports by searching the database selecting the indicated Mac model and upgrade card brand/type. If you've upgraded the CPU on your Mac, please post an entry in the database. Search the database for entries from most every upgradable Mac model *before* you buy. (Searchable by mac model/upgrade brand). For detailed reviews with performance tests and install tips, see the CPU Upgrades page.)

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(Sometimes these old pages are a bit embarrassing - and in many cases the offsite links may not work and comments there were accurate only on the date posted regarding upgrade availability, etc.)

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