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|EyeTV 2.3.3 User Switching Problems (and fix)|
|(Updated - within a minute of posting this another reader replied he'd seen the same thing - see below for notes on 2.3.3b with fix)
I would like to elicit your readers feedback on the EyeTV
2.3.3 update. I have been using this excellent software for a
long time to record and encode from a Miglia TVMini HD.
Eyetv is used from one account of a DP2Ghz G5 (6GB Ram) to record and encode and is running all the time, while we switch into other accounts to do other things. Thus far that worked flawlessly.
However with v2.3.3 this is not possible anymore. User switching while EyeTV is running results crashing the application when you switch back.
Doesn't matter if the program is idle, recording or exporting. Took
me a while to figure out that it was user switching because I was so
used to it just working. Basically now you can't switch into other
accounts while you do things in EyetTV and it can take many hours to
encode HD content in H264. This is really a step back in
Tech support just stated that Elgato never advertised user switching compatibility of Eyetv and expect it to do poorly with multiple users on the system. Anyway, I went back to 2.3.2 and things are back to normal.
I wonder if anyone else had similar experiences? What may be the
reason that 2.3.2 and 2.3.3 behave so differently?
I don't own EyeTV (never have) but if this is a common problem, I wonder if it's due to EyeTV 2.3.3 using files that are in one user's directory? (work/temp file, output file, prefs, etc. that are not in a shared or common location).
Update - another EyeTV user replied he'd seen the same thing and said a 2.3.3b version fixed it:
Yup, exactly the same thing happens to me. The input in my case comes
from one of the Terratec T2 plugin modules. G5 1.8DP with 1GB RAM.
I'm assuming that you (H.R.) upgraded to 2.3.3 because of the audio issues
in 2.3.2, (mentioned last fall here) - they also have a 2.3.3b which would seem to have none of either the sound or the switching issues. Maybe try that.
(I asked how he got the 2.3.3b version)
I contacted Elgato direct and they gave me a download link, alas I no
longer have it and really should have kept it. It's just that 2.3.3
seemed to work so well I didn't think it was necessary to keep the
beta. I think I had it for maybe two weeks before the official 2.3.3
came out. (I remember someone else mentioning having a beta just before the 2.3.3 public release but didn't remember the version number.-Mike)
CORRECTION, I have found it. It's called eyetv233b30.dmg, a 24.1MB file... I will see if I can upload it somewhere and make it available to other users.
Done it, this is the download link; (the folder is called MY Stuff and the dmg resides within) http://rapidshare.com/users/IXE6B3
Once there, the password is '33beta'
"H.R." later wrote he tried the 2.3.3B30 version and that it did fix the problem:
Confirmed, absolutely right: the beta EyeTV2.3.3b30 works with user switching while the released v2.3.3 does not.
Smooth encoding and recording while switching into other accounts. Hope Elgato fixes this with next release. Thanks Dwight.
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|Comments/Questions on Apple TV Hard Drive/Storage|
|(from a reader mail - see below for updated comments on internal hard drive upgrade. Updated again at 4PM, Matt saying despite what one reader was told at the Expo, the official stance is no user internal drive upgrades according to several Apple Techs he asked at the Expo.)
"I was disappointed in the Apple TV's meager capacity of storage for the money. For $10 they could have put in a 120GB drive? No gigabit ethernet?
Hopefully someone can confirm soon whether or not the box will
support external storage via the USB or ethernet connection. If this is already known, please advise?
I agree a larger drive would be nice. I suspect a 120GB vs 40GB would have been more than $10
difference, but at their OEM/QTY prices it wouldn't be near end user qty 1 prices. I guess to maintain margins it would have bumped the price by $50 or so and they wanted to have a $299 list max. (I'm almost surprised 40GB drives (even notebook ones) are still made anymore.)
I tend to doubt you could connect another drive (USB or NAS) for content to the AppleTV but not positive on that. (BTW - The AppleTV specs page notes USB 2.0 port "for service and diagnostics".) However the Apple TV Sync page notes you can stream from the computer if you want - See 2nd paragraph:
"Apple TV streams as well as it syncs, so you can pair up to five additional
computers and let friends and family stream their iTunes libraries to your
TV. Apple TV stores up to 50 hours of video, ready to watch when you are.
And if iTunes is still syncing what you want to see - or if you don't want
to sync at all -- you can watch a stream from your computer right away."
When these ship anyone that gets one should write in about playback performance in that mode. I also wonder if users could upgrade the internal drive or if it has some proprietary format or code on it, although tivo users got around that in the past. (Update - see below for later comments on internal drive upgrades.) I wish they had more codec support also. Always seems like every new product has some features missing (that may or may not be in a 'rev b'...). I feel like iTunes is an island almost as far as 3rd party hardware (although the anti-drm folks always seem to have workarounds...)
Update - a reader replied to this post saying he was told the internal drive can be upgraded. (But a later reply disputes this.)
In response to the Apple TV hard drive size and whether an outboard
hard drive could be used (or upgrade the internal drive), I asked a technician from Apple at MacWorld
if I could open it up like a mini and upgrade the hard drive, the
persons response was yes you could. (she even talked about using the putty knife like you would use to open a mini...)
I will be doing so when mine arrives and will report on the success or failure of the mission! I should be able to clone the hard drive and expect no issues. Will see!
I hope that's true (sometimes what you're told isn't always 100% correct). I asked Jim if he was told it was a 2.5in SATA drive (like used in Intel-CPU Mini's and MacBook/Pros) or if it was a 2.5in ATA/IDE drive. (I'd guess SATA.) A reader thought it might be a 1.8in drive like the iPods but I'd not think so (more expensive per GB, slower, less mfrs to choose from)
NOTE: Matthew called around 4PM eastern today to dispute the above,
saying he asked several Apple techs at MWSF and all said the AppleTV's internal drive could not be user upgraded/replaced. (Officially 'no user serviceable parts inside') Officially the same thing applies to the Mac Mini although readers (many times) have upgraded drives and even CPUs (Intel Mini has a socketed CPU). But I wondered if the AppleTV hard drive had some special format or firmware, etc. on the drive. (Although owners of TiVos for instance found ways to upgrade the hard drive, no idea on the AppleTV at this point. Time will tell once they ship.)
Matt also said they confirmed what I had mentioned earlier, that the USB 2.0 port on the Apple TV is for "service and diagnostics" only. (This is listed on the AppleTV specs page .)
BTW - Matt said his Apple store order confirmation for Apple TV said it will ship by Feb 28th/delivered by March 6th. Jim later wrote his order showed a Feb. 26th ship date.
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