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2008 Mac Pro booting OS X 10.4.11, 2600XT running in 2007 Mac Pro, more...
NOTE: Oliver used his OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger) install from his 2007 Mac Pro - the OS X 10.4 DVD install will not work. (Clone previous Mac Pro 10.4.x drive via FW target disk mode or drive swap.)

"Hi Mike, Got a new Mac Pro today to replace my previous one. It's an 8-core 2.8 GHz Model with a Radeon HD 2600 XT (I ordered a GeForce 8800 GT separately; its expected shipping date just increased from today to March, 7th). (My CTO 3GHz w/8800GT card option should arrive by mid-Feb.-Mike)
Here are some tidbits you might find interesting:

  • RocketRAID 2314 works fine for me (unlike previous 2008 Mac Pro owner reported earlier here, but that reader now thinks the card may have been defective.-Mike)
  • Radeon HD 2600 XT works in both old and new Mac Pro
    (FYI: The 2600XT is NOT a faster/better card than the previous X1900XT card for Mac Pros, it doesn't even support some OpenGL features in OS X that the old X800 card did. If you have an X1900, don't bother with a 2600XT card.
    Another 2007 Mac Pro owner said although his new 2600XT card "benchmarked" (openmark/xbench) and lower than his original Nvidia 7300GT card, with his 30in Cinema display it ran Apple's "Shell" and "Arabesque" screen savers more smoothly than the 7300 GT.
    )
  • Radeon X1900 XT works in both old and new Mac Pro
  • (PC) VGA GeForce 8800 GT SC works in both old and new Mac Pro in Windows
  • The new Mac Pro can boot Tiger v10.4.11 (!) - I only tried that with the X1900 XT inside, it was by accident actually (I keep a Tiger on a separate partition for emergencies and maintenance like running Diskwarrior and iDefrag) (FYI: I wrote Oliver to ask if he used a Tiger install from the 2007 Mac Pro and if he'd actually used OS X Tiger on it for some time (not just a simple boot). A reader with a new 2008 Mac Pro w/2600 XT card is trying to get a tiger install to work but hasn't yet.-Mike)
  • Mac Pro can use 667 MHz FB-DIMMs (but any 800 MHz FB-DIMMs still in the Mac Pro will also run at 667 MHz)
  • The new Mac Pro has two rubber rings on the drive sleds' screws do dampen vibrations

    There are some specialties about my setup though, as I simply swapped the hard drives between the old and new Mac Pro, the new Mac Pro now runs the regular 9B18 build of Mac OS X 10.5.1, whereas the old Mac Pro runs the newer 9C16 Build.
    Hope this info is useful to anybody
    Cheers, Oliver"

  • I wrote Oliver to ask if he'd actually used OS X Tiger on the 2008 Mac Pro to see if there were any problems seen in use. (I wasn't sure if he'd done more than boot Tiger on it.) Several readers had asked about running OS X Tiger on a 2008 Mac Pro as their Pro Audio software wasn't compatible with Leopard yet. (I wondered if there was some new motherboard chipset driver required that was not present in public OS X 10.4.x release.) I also wondered if OS X Tiger's graphics card drivers would work with the new cards. (ATI HD 2600 GPU was in AL iMacs which ran OS X Tiger and the later MacBook Pros had an Nvidia 8600M (Mobile) GPU, but wasn't sure if those Tiger drivers would support new newer PCIe 2.0 cards.)

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    2008 Mac Pro reports page updated
    I've updated the 2008 Mac Pro Owner Feedback page with a new owner's comments (all OK, huge upgrade from his Beige G3) and a follow-up from a reader that's still seeing occasional system freezes (unlike some others, disabling sleep in Energy Saver did not help him, nor did other suggestions like a clean reinstall, etc. - I suggested he call Apple support to report this as well as ask for a replacement 2600XT card perhaps.)
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    Creating Webclip icons for iPhone, iPod Touch
    " Mike, xlr8yourmac was the first site I made a webclip of on my iPod touch. I thought this may be of interest to you as I am sure I am not the only one.
    http://vjarmy.com/archives/2008/01/howto_iphone_webclip_icons.php
    -Corey
    Sent from my iPod "

    Thanks, this morning I created/uploaded an icon file for this site and tested it on an updated (1.1.3) iPhone. (I've not tried it, but Dan later wrote with a link to http://clipalizer.com.)

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    More Feedback on Mac Office 2008
    (Another reader noting no problems importing from Entourage 2004, although yesterday's news had a note that an Entourage X user did.)

    "Went absolutely smoothly with six accounts upgrading from Microsoft Office 2004, running 10.5.2C16 on a MacPro Quad 2.5 GHz, 8 GB RAM, four 1TB drives.

    (Office 2008) Definitely faster, a bit more "eye candy" but nothing else I've noted in day to day use of Entourage. Word loads a great deal faster, and generally more "snappy." Haven't used Excel or PP yet. Just an FYI.
    Also couldn't register, but that shouldn't be an issue (I hope).
    Ishan B, MD "

    Registration with MS seems a common problem. (I'd personally not want to register with MS live either.)

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