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  01/10/99 - Sunday's News:
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Today is 'family day' and the news is a bit late and rushed. I'll have lots more in tomorrow's update.

Rage128 - Better Drivers Soon? You heard it here first folks, the Yosemite Game Performance page has been updated with comments from ATI's 3D programmer that makes me feel a *lot better* about the Rage128/Yosemite game performance. He reaffirmed the comments I had made in the analysis/summary on the page yesterday. More speed and better image quality is coming he says - so don't consider the current shipping Rage128 comments to be the final word. There is also new owner comments on Myth II on the updated page.

Another reader comments on Yosemite performance compared to the PC with Rage128:

"Hey Mike,
the RAGE 128's performance isn't that bad when compared to a PC also using the RAGE 128. I found this page which compares the ATI Fury to a TNT and Voodoo 2. The system is a 400 MHz PII with the results 640X480@24.1 (fps) and 800X600@21.9 (fps). This is slower than the Yosemite G3 400 MHz, [Not really - as noted at that page it was running 32-bit color mode - the Yosemite was running 16Bit color mode-Mike] and remember that the RAGE Fury has 32MB of memory, while the RAGE 128 in Yosemites have only 16MB.
Also, this site lists the RAGE Fury as having the best graphics quality of any PC 3D card, so what is the "image quality" problem? I plan to get a Yosemite as soon as Apple fixes the weird ATA bus issues and external USB modems are confirmed to be available.
Mike Stitzer"

See the updated Yosemite game page for comments to me from ATI on better/faster drivers.

Yosemite Initial Impressions: A reader noted some initial impressions on his new machine which seemed to arrive with a defective keyboard:

" I went to the depot and picked mine up yesterday. I was under the impression that these things were smaller that the old tower designs but that is not the case - the new G3 is appx 4" taller and maybe 1-1.5" wider. It's definately a different design, though; gonna take a little getting used to =)

I'm pretty sure the USB keyboard is bad. I plugged it into the machine and the mouse into the keyboard, and although the keyboard power button worked, that was about it - no mouse input, no key input. So I plugged the mouse directly into the machine and it worked fine. I'm using ADB keyboard and mouse right now, though, and since I have a wacom tablet and a Turbo Mouse, I probably won't be going USB for those purposes anyway ...

I called Apple for support about the keyboard, but they aren't open weekends (!!!!)

Otherwise, this thing is GREAT so far - startup times scream. Barely have enough time to notice the extensions at the bottom of the screen (about two and a half rows at 1024x768) before they go away and the desktop appears. Default disk cache is _40_ Megs! [he later replied it was 4096K {4MB}-Mike] (I have the 12GB ATA drive). I'm not sure if that's right or not, but it sure puts a crimp in the 128 MB of ram.

I'm just now finishing software xfer from the old machine (8500/120 w/Powerlogix 275 card), so I'll let you know how things work once they're comfy ... Take care, and hang in there, buddy!
matt"

4MB disk cache (OS setting) is normally the largest I run, as it's near the point of diminishing returns (see the SCSI page for an MB study on disk cache sizes vs scores).

OWC ZIF BuyBack Program: Just received this is reference to their $479 300/150/1MB ZIF Upgrade:

" Other World Computing is pleased to make an even better deal for purchasers of the IBM 300mhz w/1024 G3 Zif Upgrade.

The current price remains an exceptional value at $479 w/free delivery for online orders and additionally we now offer rebates for a Zif trade in. The rebates and terms are as follows:

G3/233mhz Zif - $100 rebate, net cost = $379
G3/266mhz Zif - $150 rebate, net cost = $329

Zif module must be returned to OWC with proper authorization number within 45 days of product receipt. 30 Day money back policy still applies to purchase of G3/300 upgrade.

This buy back rebate is also available with the purchase of any Sonnet or XLR8 G3 Zif upgrade products from our company.
Best Regards,
Larry
Other World Computing
800-275-4576
www.macsales.com "

Today's Unreal Tips and Tricks page has some interesting comments on Quake lighting settings that dramatically affect performance (Frank wonders which setting was used for the MacWorld Demo and shows reasons why it might have been with shadows off (default/higher performance)), Myth II performance tests with out new MythII FPS Toolkit, news on upcoming Unreal maps and more.

Mac OpenGL Code is Conix's: As suspected, Apple apparently licensed the Conix3D source code for the MacOS. Here's the latest mail I received from Conix:

" Hello OpenGL customers and Friends,

The culmination of four years work came to fruition last Tuesday at the keynote address when Steve Jobs announced Apple OpenGL. Apple has licensed OpenGL from SGI and purchased the Conix source code.

The keynote address was fantastic. With the incredible power of the new G3s, multi-colored and faster iMacs for consumers, and the speed of ATI's Rage 128 Apple's OpenGL games and applications will be awesome!

Bob Beretta and John Stauffer, the engineering talent behind Conix OpenGL were aquired along with the source code. They have great plans for the work they will do at Apple. Conix will continue to support our Mathematica plug-ins: Conix 3D Explorer and Mechanical Systems (tech@conix3d.com) and continue to update OpenGL for eXodus, MachTen, X-Ten and Code Builder.

At the MacWorld Expo last week, I sensed the enthusiasm and commitment of the Apple OpenGL team. Many have been long time advocates of Conix and OpenGL. I got the sense that Apple will be providing full support and resources for OpenGL developers.

Information about OpenGL at Apple can be found at: http://www.apple.com/opengl/, or our web page.

Special thanks are in order to John Schimpf at SGI who helped us when we were a company of two, Scott Jenkins (formerly of Apple) for early and continued support, Chis Bentley, who worked with John to provide an excellent ATI driver and accommodate our customers needs, the QD3D Team, Brian Coleman, Bill LaBate, Kathy Tafel, and many others who worked behind the scenes for OpenGL at Apple, Rebecca Gulick (remember Conix Man!), our customers: New River Kinematics, Molecular Simulations, Hash, NewTek, auto*des*sys, Strata, Questar, Synergy, Laminar, and others, John Carmack of ID Software, and the media and press who've been our continual ally.

Warmest Regards,
The Conix Team Conix Enterprises, Inc.
http://www.conix3d.com "

More DV/Firewire feedback: In response to a problem reported from a new G3 owner in the Yosemite page yesterday, Dan Baldwin replied:

" Hi Mike--
We have successfully been capturing DV from our Sony VX700 camcorder to our new G3 400mhz using Premiere 5.1-- We haven't tried it with Premiere 4.0 and probably won't. We just followed the tips in the DV video article which is in the Firewire folder on the new G3s.
Thanks,
Dan Baldwin "

PowerBase OC Hack: The author of the PowerComputing Speed Bump (see links page OC section) writes:

" Hi Mike!
A fellow in France who saw my Power Computing CPU card ratio hack figured out how to do the same to his PowerBase 603e card. He successfully changed his 200 MHz card to 240 MHz, and figured out all the possible ratios. He made a web page outlining how to change things around, but so far there is only available in French. He claims to have an English translation in the works. It is possible to figure out though. He has a page in English with some other useful Mac-related hacks, and a link to the Powerbase page. Here is the URL:

http://bigiup.univ-lemans.fr/~p9548/mac_hard_uk.html

I provided links to this on PowerPC.ORG as well.

One more important thing: The surface mount devices that you change on the Powerbase's card are actually resistors, not jumpers like the 604e cards have. One will want to use the appropriate value resistor when changing ratios around! Beware! If someone is not sure what they are doing, they may want to wait for the English translation! ;) [Update: Go to: http://babelfish.altavista.com which will translate pages to other languages]
George
Webmaster, PowerPC.ORG & PowerComputing.NET Nashville, TN
http://www.powerpc.org
http://www.powercomputing.net
ftp://ftp.powerpc.org "

As always - overclocking will void your warranty and may not be reliable in your system. You assume all risk of damage when you perform any overclocking modifications.

UMax 604e/233 Card in 8500: Brian Gery writes he had verification (SCSI) errors burning cdroms with this combination:

" Hi-
I have a PM 8500/120 in which I recently installed a UMAX 604e/225MHz CPU card. The machine seemed to work great for a few months until I tried to use my Teac CD-R55S CD-R drive. I started getting funny verification errors when burning CDs. After alot of screaming and hair-pulling (and some expert advice from Brent at Adaptec) I put the old 120 MHz card back in and found that everything seems to work fine again. It seemed that there were occasional bit errors being written to the disk during a burn which would fail the disk verify after the burn was complete. It looks like there is a slight incompatibility between the UMAX card and the cache from Apple.
I don't really have the time to figure it out completely, so I am going to sell the UMAX card (which works BEAUTIFULLY otherwise) and look around for a G3 card that doesn't cause the problem.
From what I understand, the UMAX cards were never meant to work in a PowerMac, and so there may be slight timing problems that only show up under certain circumstances.
Thanks for the great site!
Brian Gery "

I assume he tried Zapping the pram or resetting the CUDA (Cpu reset button) as noted in the FAQ but that may not be the answer. One possible culprit is that the bus speed of the 233mhz card (usually 46MHz) was too high for the stock 8500/120 cache, which often times will not run reliably over 45mhz on some early models (see my L2 cache page for more info on the two cache dimms I saw in 8500's). Normally cache issues show up quickly in general use however (failure to boot, lockups, etc.).

If you missed yesterday's News, it was updated as late as 9PM. A summary is below.

Yesterday's News Summary

  • Yosemite game performance page posted with Unreal results
  • Virtual Game Station Performance Tip
  • Yosemite page updated with DVD RAM, GB Ethernet and other news
  • IXMicro 3dfx Banshee shown at Macworld (and link to image of display)
  • Yosemite Firewire DV capture problem report
  • Carmine's TIL and Net News Feed
  • MacWorld in Pictures page posted
  • Report of no IR port on 266MHz iMacs
  • More on Keyspan Serial port PCI Cards for Yosemite
  • Rumors of Sony suing Connectix (unverified)
  • IE 4.5 - mixed bag of reader reports
  • Reader report on Japanese pricing of Macs and software
  • More playstation emulator feedback
  • Reader discovers his G3/233 had a 266MHz CPU ZIF module
  • Unreal News page updated with exclusive screenshots of new level and more
  • Other Net news

For other recent site news/features links, see the Recent Site Features page.

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