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Accelerate Your Mac! News Archive for: 3/27/2001 Tuesday's NewsReturn to Accelerate Your Mac!

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Top stories of 3/27/2001:

Adobe Posts Info on Their Programs OS X Classic Issues:
Adobe has posted a page titled Adobe software and Mac OS X which has sidebar links for all their major mac software. Each of the linked product pages has info on specific problems running current versions in Classic mode under OS X. The Photoshop page for instance has notes specific to PhotoShop 6.0 under Classic including things that cause crashes. There's similar pages for all their Mac software titles. This is a must read for anyone running the latest versions of Adobe software under OS X classic to avoid problems and crashes.
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IBM's Largest Notebook Drive Ever - 48GB - Also Quietest:
Cnet has a story today on the new 48GB Travelstar drive that uses liquid bearings and sound absorbing padding to make it (they claim) the quietest drive ever. This shoulds like just the ticket for PowerBook G4s which have no expansion bays. It's also a 5400 RPM drive, like their 32GB Travelstar model. (The 32GB drive was quiet in some respects, but had a low volume fan-like noise as I noted in my PB G3 tests/install guide. Still I preferred that sound to the whine of many notebook drives that happens after months of use.).
For more details on the Travelstar drive than the Cnet article has, see the IBM Travelstar 48GH product page.
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Review of MacSoft's Driver Game:
Reader Kevin Harrigan sent a review and screenshots of Mac Driver.
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OS X PPP/Modem Tip and Question on Modem Firmware:
To those that are having problems, I'd like to know if they were systems that had the last Apple internal modem firmware update 2.0 applied? (From Fall 2000 - new macs should not need it.) If you don't remember the update listed here back then, see http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11885 (multi-country version) which notes it's for PB G3 series, iMacs, B&W G3, G4 PCI and AGP models. (About a month before there were separate downloads for the 2.0 North American and 2.0 Intl. English version.) If you're having OS X PPP/internal modem problems and didn't apply the firmware update (might want to apply it after booting into OS 9.1), let me know if it helps.
A reader also sent a note regarding PPP settings:

"I've been using PPP on my Bronze Powerbook for 45 minutes now without problem. (I'm using Eudora Pro's latest 5.1 beta which is Carbonized, BTW.) Here's a suggestion that may or may not help PPP dialup users:

Go to the Network control panel and under Internal Modem, select PPP, then PPP Options and turn off Send PPP Echo Packets. (This option is enabled by default.)

The problems I've seen reported so far all mention error messages that cited the failure to return a PPP echo which led PPP to believe the link was down. So... simply turning off PPP echoes may fix that. --Wayne Folta"

Some of the problem reports here didn't mention that error specificially, but if Wayne's suggestion helps anyone with previous problems let me know.

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Beige G3 Rev A Owner Reports OS X 1.0 Added IDE Slave Support:
I received this email with a subject of "Unexpected OS X Benefit". (Several other readers replied to this post noting the same thing.)

" Well, after installing OSX on my beige G3/300 minitower (Rev A), I had an unexpected benefit. The second IDE HD that had been sitting dormant in there (waiting for me to get a Rev B or Rev C ROM) suddenly was accessed and ready for use! Unbelievable.

All in all, I had a pretty painless installation, despite all the horror stories I read.

Beige G3 Minitower, 300 megahertz
OWC 466 upgrade
Stock 4 gig UW SCSI drive
Apple UW SCSI card (that came with computer)
IBM 60 gig 75GXP deskstar HD (IDE Slave)
Toshiba DVD/CD internal (IDE Master)
XClaim VR128 video card
Orangelink USB/Firewire card
HP 930 Printer
Stock 96 megs RAM
PNY PC100 128 megs RAM
-Sam V. "

As noted since 1998 in the G3-ZONE here, the Rev B and Rev C ROM equipped Beige G3s have IDE slave drive support, where the original Rev A model does not. (Installing a Rev B/Rev C ROM dimm adds support to Rev A machines as readers noted a year or so ago, but the ROM dimm upgrades are getting hard to find now.) If anyone else has seen slave support added by OS X on a rev A Beige G3 , let me know.

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Reader Tip for Those with OS X Disk/Boot Problems:
I've not had any disk or boot problems with OS X personally, but a reader sent a tip that helped in his case. (There have been a few reports of hard drives suddenly not being bootable, etc. after installing OS X. A few reports related to sleep mode are noted below. )

" FYI, I also was subjected to the "click-whirl" problem on startup with OS X on my PB G4 this morning. As your other reader noted, I could boot from CD and see everything fine, but all attempts to boot OS X failed. Then I booted off the CD again and selected the 9.1 folder and it worked. I then selected to boot X again and it worked ever since. Hopefully it is rare, and is always this easy to recover from when it does happen.
Martin "

Another reader wrote:

"You might want to let him and everyone else know that if you get the flashing question mark, after a restart, you should boot from the 9.1 CD if possible. If not possible, boot from a bootable CD, but don't go to control panels->startup disk, instead, go to your classic folder on the hard drive and open the startup disk control panel there. In the control panel, expand the drive where your OS X folder is and it should be re-blessed!
-Ben"

I've not had any PowerBook G4 problems with OS X yet but I've never put it to sleep under OS X. I do notice a louder "click" from the drive when I shut down - I never noticed that when shutting down from OS 9.1 before. Knock on wood no problems yet however.

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Another OS X 1.0 Cube Owner Reports Disk Problem after Sleep:
The recent news had a report from a Cube owner that said his disk was corrupted after waking from sleep in OS X 1.0. (Another Cube owner said he had problem in OS 9.1 also.) I've received another report from a Cube owner that said he lost the contents of a Firewire drive after sleep under OS X 1.0:

"I installed OS X on my Cube and then put it to sleep after a bit. Upon awakening the next morning the contents of my QPS Que M2 firewire drive had vanished. I wound up having to reformat as the contents were gone under OS 9.1 also. I've been afraid to put it to sleep since.
Ron"

I asked if he had applied the firmware update and startup disk control panel update. If you do use sleep mode, it may be best to unmount any external drive volumes and disconnect them before putting the mac to sleep.
I've had several reports that sleep was not a problem for some other system types (Powerbooks and Towers, etc.). I've avoided sleep under OS X 1.0 on my PB G4 however, but have not seen any problems with that system and OS X 1.0.

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OS X and Turbomax ATA/33 Card - Users Must Upgrade to ATA/66 Version:
I've not been able to read all emails but several owners of this card sent copies of replies from Promax that said:

"If you have an ATA-33 card...you will have to upgrade to ATA-66 card....
Please contact Promax's Sale Rep for upgrade price"

I've added this comment to the OS X and PCI IDE Card reports page.

One other note that I think has been reported here previously, the Turbomax ATA/33 card doesn't work in the 2001 G4 (digital audio) towers. Here's a recent comment on this I received from Promax:

"They will never work in the new 4 slot G4's. Apple made a hardware change in PCI support and in order for the TurboMAX/33 card to work it would take a hardware change on the card that is not easy to do. We are offering upgrades to the TurboMAX/66 card for $60.00 to those that want to move to a new computer."

With dealers selling new ATA/66 cards for $89 to $99, if you can sell the ATA/33 card that might be the way to go.

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OS X 1.0 Install Reports on Pre-G3 Macs and Clones:
Our forum thread with reports on older Macs/OS X 1.0 has some success stories posted. (Most recent was a 9500 w/G3 CPU upgrade on page 2 of that forum thread.) For a complete list of all posts from older Mac owners regarding OS X, see the OS X on Pre-Beige G3 Macs forum.
As noted in the weekend news, Ryan Rempel has a page on installing OS X 1.0 on 7300 to 9600 PowerMacs.
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More Firmware Update Reports:
I've been flooded with emails on the firmware update, too many to read them all and still do anything else here (one man site). Some suggest having all the same type/speed RAM may help, but that's little consolation for users that have a lot of RAM that's from different sources. As I can I will try to update the Firmware Updates Feedback page with reports that may be of help or interest.

As a FYI, I've updated two Macs with the new firmware without problems but in both cases I had two dimms that were exacty the same from the same dealer. (Two 256MB 222 SODIMMs from Transintl in the PB G4, and two 512MB 222 DIMMS from OWC in the G4/500 dual processor machine.) Since I bought the 512MB dimms last fall before the price drops (I paid $460 or so each), I was very apprehensive about the update, but so far I've seen no problems and all RAM is recognized.

If you have mixed RAM, it may be best to hold off on the update. I wish there was a flasher to restore the previous version for those owners that experienced problems. Right now there's no way I know of to revert back to an older firmware version. Readers noted there is a thread on the Firmware update/lost RAM issue in the Apple Discussion forums also.

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More Reader Reports on OS X 1.0 PPP/Modem Issues:
Yesterday's news had a report on kernel panics from a Dual G4 owner using PPP with the internal modem. I've received other reports on internal modem issues since then:

" I am having the same problem as another user reported. The PPP Connect disconnects after being online only a short while. I also get the same error message (PPP Connect Error: 264). Another symptom not described is that after I get dropped from connect, the PPP Connect dialog box hangs on "Disconnecting...". My setup is a dual G4-500, so I guess maybe this is some problem with the dual processor macs.
John D. "

" With OS X using a PB G4 500 Titanium, it will connect flawlessly using a high speed cable modem. But the same computer will NOT connect under OS X at all using the internal modem. I tried every modem script imaginable, but still no cigar.

I have to start up with OX 9.1 to connect via the PB's internal modem.
Ted "

This reader noted a similar issue using the Airport Base's modem:

" Regarding your report on kernel panic crashes when using PPP:

I experienced this twice running a PowerBook G4 and using the AirPort base station modem to download iMovie for OS X.
-- Bill C. "

On my only OS X machine so far (PB G4) I've not had any problems but I use Airport (w/Cable modem) not the internal modem. If anyone has any suggestions to those with problems, please let me know.

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VST Comments on OS X Support with their PCI IDE card:
As noted on the OS X and PCI IDE Card reports page, owners of VST IDE cards say it doesn't work in OS X 1.0. (Sonnet/Acard ATA/66 and hardware RAID cards do work, as long as Apple drivers are used for the drives.) Several readers sent a copy of VST's reply to his question on OS X support:

"Hi,
We do not have any timetable for full compatibility of this product with OS X as of yet, but I assure you we're working on support for nearly all of our products. The card should work fine on its own, but SoftRAID needs to be updated to work with OS X first.

I encourage you to check back periodically on our Web site for more information.
KC
--
***Please include this message when replying***
Karl "KC" Czapla
VST/SmartDisk Personal Storage Systems Technical Support Dept."

Despite what is implied in the above comments ("should work on its own" - no VST IDE card owners so far have reported it working in OS X 1.0. (Unless there's an email that I've not gotten to - there are hundreds of new mails in the last several days that I have not been able to read.) I don't think all the reports posted so far were using Softraid drivers. To clarify, if you have used a VST IDE card with Apple's drivers and installed OS X 1.0, let me know.

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CPU Upgrades Owner Ratings Database Updated:
The Rate Your CPU Upgrade database has been updated with 11 new reports (total to date: 5,449). [Entries from after midnight EST will be added the following day.]

  • Powerlogix G3/300 in Umax S900 (rated 10)
  • Powerlogix G3/350 in 7500 (rated 10)
  • Powerlogix G3/300 in 7600/120 (rated 10)
  • Sonnet G4/450 in 8600/200 (rated 10)
  • Sonnet G3/400 in 7500/100 (rated 10)
  • Sonnet G3/500 in Beige G3 Deskop (rated 9)
  • XLR8 G4/450 in Beige G3 desktop (rated 10)
  • XLR8 G4/450 (Machcarrier MPe) in 8500/120 (rated 10)
  • XLR8 G3/466 in Beige G3 (rated 8)
  • XLR8 CarrierZIF G3/333 (Machcarrier) in 7300/200 (rated 10)
  • B&W G3/400 OC report

You can find these full reports by searching the database selecting the indicated Mac model and upgrade card brand/type. If you've upgraded the CPU on your Mac, please post an entry in the database. Search the database for entries from most every upgradable Mac model *before* you buy. (Searchable by mac model/upgrade brand). For detailed reviews with performance tests and install tips, see the CPU Upgrades page.)

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CDRW/CD/DVD/HD Compatibility Database Updates:
The Drive Compatibility searchable database had 28 new entries added this morning including DVD-RAM, CD-ROM, CDRWs, Tape Drives and Hard Drives. (Current total 3,388 reports). Entries from after midnight are added the following day. [BTW - the drive database is not a place to post questions, it's for reports on drives you've used. For guides to drive installs, see the IDE, SCI or Firewire articles linked above and/or the FAQ. Thanks.]
You can find full owner reports by searching the database by drive/brand/interface/mac models (the latest reports are shown first in searches).
If you've added a IDE, SCSI, Firewire or USB hard drive, CDRW, tape drive, etc. make sure you add a report to the database.
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More Reader Game Reviews:
Today's Reader's Rate Their Mac Games updates included reviews of Caesar III and Quake 3 Demo. Total Reviews (all titles): 754. To read game reviews use the search page.
If you've not already done so - Enter a Game review.
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Software Updates, Apple TILs, Other Net News:
Reported By: Barney Buoy

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