Just a FYI for those that may think adding a DVD ROM drive alone (of any brand) will add DVD player support on a Lombard without the decoder chip on the motherboard or a PCcard decoder.

" Hi Mike,
Just wanted to pass on some details regarding this card. I just installed it and attached a Maxtor DiamondPlus60 ATA 100 drive to it on my DP 800.

I have two Western Digital Caviar (80 and 100GB) drives attached to the onboard bus. I can't provide you with hard numbers at this point, but I can tell you that it doesnít appear to provide any real world speed increase over the onboard bus from what I have seen. Similar to your other Acard review.

It also disables sleep totally in OSX and disables deep sleep in OS9. In fact, with my GF3 attached to a Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 200 monitor it actually pushes the monitor out of sync when the Mac does sleep, and I get an out of range error. The error disappears on waking. Strange. It does ship with everything in the box you might need: screws ATA cable, fairly decent manual even a beige mounting sled and power cable Y-splitter. I attached a screen shot of the rev number of the card from ASP just FYI. Feel free to pass along any info to your readers. God Bless.
Don B.
Macintosh Consultant"

Perhaps they can address this in a future firmware update.

" Just replaced the original CD Drive with a Plextor 16/10/40A ATAPI drive. Toast Titanium can burn CD's, also Retrospect 4.3 (with Driver Update & Extensions Update) sees the drive as well. I have a Beige G3 tower, upgraded to 500 mHZ G3, 768mb ram, running System 9.2.1.
Steve "

" I have an NEC NR-7700A 12X10X32. It works perfectly with the new Retrospect version and also works with Disk Burn, it was a deal for under $100. It is installed internally in a B&W G3/350 with OS 9.2.1.
-Frank"

" I have a HP 9350 10x4x(forgot) [32x I suspect-Mike] that I installed in my B&W g3 400 and this update finally recognized my drive. Funny thing though it said it was on SCSI 2:1 when it on ATA 2:1. It works, no complaints."

" Just wanted to let you know that my internal 12x8x32 CDRW (Teac CD-W512EB) works fine with Retrospect since updating the software.
I'm running macos 9.2.1 on a B&W G3.
Gary P."

If any readers test the Retrospect driver update with other brands of IDE CDRWs, please let me know the details (drive model, etc.) and system info.
The Retrospect driver update was listed in yesterday's news software updates (available from this Dantz page). I've added this info to the FAQ's CDROM/CDR section for future reference.

" I want to report that I have used Scott Boone's patcher on my 9.2.1 System Suitcase and have now substituted this for the 9.1 Suitcase that I was originally forced to use after updating to 9.2.1. I have a Power Tower Pro 225 with an upgraded G3 400 cpu. After applying the patcher, the 9.2 splash screen comes up and everything seems to be working fine. If I have any problems I will let you know. I have verified that I can print (Laser Writer 360).

For those interested in using Scott's patcher (located in his iDisk) , the large one is the one needed. As I understand it, the small patch is another method for getting the updated to run. Since I was successful with GestLab, I did not need the small patch but I was confused about what it does. Scott's patcher operates on the 9.2.1 Suitcase that is produced from running the update. When you activate the patch it will ask for the location of system 9.2.1. It wants the location of the suitcase. Be patient when it runs, you will hear a lot of disk activity, then silence. Then you will get a screen saying it was successful.

I also had the same or very similar trouble as as others have posted with Eudora. I deleted Open Transport Preferences, AppleShare Prep, and AppleTalk Preferences - and left TCP/IP alone, then restarted. This worked for me. I suspect open transport is the main offender.
Bruce R. "

I've added Bruce's comments to the original page on the OS 9.2.1 install mods and reader comments.

DVD Recorder Drive Reports:
• Pioneer DVR-A03 in Firewire case (used w/PowerBook G4)
  
  IDE CDRW Reports:
• Plextor 12/10/32 in Beige G3
• Samsung SW-212BE 12/8/32 in Beige G3 (problems noted)
• Sony CRX160E in Dual G4
• Teac CD-W58E 8X8X32 in Beige G3
  (noted no support in iTunes yet another report said otherwise.)
  
  Expansion Bay CDRW Reports:
• Matshita UJDA 330 8x4x24 in PowerBook G3 2000
  
  Firewire CDRW Drive Reports:
• Lacie 16/10/40 used w/Dual G4 (problems noted)
• Plextor W2410TA (24x10x40A) in Firewire case (used w/Dual G4 system)
• Sony 140e (IDE) in ADS Pryo case (used w/Dual G4 system)
  (Noted Retrospect 4.3 w/updates worked with the drive)
• TDK 16/10/40 used with Powerbook G4
  
  USB CDRW Drive Reports:
• Lacie 4x/2x/8x w/G4 AGP system
  
  DVD ROM Drive Reports:
• IDE Toshiba SDM-1502 in Beige G3
  
  IDE Hard Drive Reports:
• IBM 30GB in Powerbook G4
  [used my Illustrated Powerbook G4 Drive Upgrade guide]
• IBM 60GXP 40GB in Beige G3
• Maxtor 100GB in G4/Cube
  (I reviewed the Maxtor 100GB tested in my G4 Cube here previously)
• Maxtor 40GB in Beige G3
• Western Digital 80GB in iMac
  (noted startup problems - due to the drive not being set to "single drive" jumper setting)
  
  Firewire Hard Drive Reports:
• FWdepot oxford 911 case used with G4/AGP

You can find full owner reports by searching the database by drive/brand/interface/mac models (the latest reports are shown first in searches).
If you've added a IDE, SCSI, Firewire or USB hard drive, CDRW, tape drive, etc. make sure you add a report to the database. [If you post an updated entry - make sure you use the same name, etc. as you did before so I can find your past entry. Thanks.]

• Metabox G3/400 in 8500/120 (rated 10)
• Newer Tech G4/400 in PowerTower Pro 200 (rated 1)
• Other World Computing G3/450 in Beige G3 (rated 10)
• Powerlogix Bluechip PB G3/466 in PB G3 Wallstreet 2 (rated 8)
• Powerlogix Bluechip PB G3/500 in PB G3 Wallstreet 2 (rated 10)

(Warning - Overclocking may not be reliable and could lead to hardware failure or corrupted data.) You can find the full reports by searching the database selecting the indicated Mac model and upgrade card brand/type. If you've upgraded the CPU on your Mac, please post an entry in the database. Search the database for entries from most every upgradable Mac model *before* you buy. (Searchable by mac model/upgrade brand). For detailed reviews with performance tests and install tips, see the CPU Upgrades page.)

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Software Updates:
• Quark 5.0 Beta
• Mactella 1.3.1
  
  OS X Software
• TinkerTool 1.5.1
• FoldersSynchronizer 2.1.3

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• PowerBook (FireWire): Periodic CD/DVD Drive Noise
• PowerBook (FireWire): Audio CD Stops Playing

Mac/PowerPC Related News:
(Note: Rehashing of press releases, repeated news, etc. not listed)

• G4 Server (apple)
• First Quicksilver Power Mac G4 server slips out (the register)
• The MacFest comes to Birmingham, UK. And even Apple turned up (macevangelist)
• The MacFest roadshow (macworld uk)
• CorelDRAW 10 coming to OS X this month (maccentral)
• Scripting for IE 5 Macintosh Edition (Apple developer site)

Gaming Related:
• High Flying Hawk [interview with tony hawk] (IGN)
• Aspyr taking pre-orders for Spider-Man (aspyr)

Misc. Hardware Related:
• Palm quietly cuts price of m500 (cnet)
• Palm Vs. Merlin (forbes)
• Microsoft preps 'Xbox 2' as home entertainment hub (the register)
• Brother Expands Line of Color Inkjet MFCs; New MFC-3100c and MFC-5100c Target SOHO & Remote Office Users with Aggressive Price Points (businesswire)

Other Net News:
• The 'wow' factor is gone from personal computers (nando)
• Slap on the wrist? (salon.com)