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News Archive for: 9/27/2001 Thursday's NewsReturn to Accelerate Your Mac!

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OS X 10.1 vs 10.0.4 Performance Tests with Dual G4/500:
So far I've been very pleased with the OS X 10.1 update on my G4/500 dual processor system. I've posted a page with several categories of performance tests comparing OS X 10.0.4 (build 4Q12) vs. OS X 10.1 (5G64). Test I ran included time to boot, launch Classic, Photoshop 5.5 tests in Classic vs OS 9.2.1, Firewire and IDE drive performance, iMovie2 Quicktime export and tests with Quake3 with both a retail Radeon AGP card and an OEM GeForce3. (Thanks again to Matthew Culmore for picking up the 10.1 update for me at Seybold and shipping it overnight.)

As a FYI - a reader sent a mail today saying he received a shipping notice from Apple on his OS X 10.1 update order, so at least some of the orders may arrive sooner than than originally expected.

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First Impressions of OS X 10.1:
Notes on DVD Player, improved Sony FW900 Support, Disk Util, CDRWs:
I've posted a page with comments and screenshots from the OS X 10.1 DVD player, a comparison of Sony FW900 (widescreen) CRT resolutions with a retail Radeon AGP card (many more modes than 10.0.4), notes on the new Disk Utility and support for a retail Toshiba R1102 CDRW/DVD combo drive .
(FYI: There was still no widescreen mode support with the OEM Geforce3 card (1045 firmware) however.)
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Toshiba R1102 Combo DVD/CDRW Drive and OS X 10.1:
For those that don't read my first impressions of OS X 10.1, I wanted to say that I've seen plug and play in OS 9 and OS X with a retail box Toshiba SD-R1102 (8x CDR, 8x CDRW, 8x DVD) IDE drive in my Dual G4/AGP system. It booted an OS X CD and is supported by iTunes, Discburner and the OS X 10.1 DVD player.
Since the G4 tower cases only allow one CD sized drive, it's nice to have both DVD and CDRW support in one drive. Forgot to mention that Toast 5.02 says the drive has Buffer Underrun prevention. Firmware version is 1012 on mine. (There are previous Toshiba combo drive owner reports in the drive database here also.)
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Another G4 Cube Owner Reports 4.1.9 Firmware Update Fixed Some Speaker Issues:
The page on Cube Owner Feedback on the 4.1.9 firmware update has another report that noted some previous speaker issues were fixed after the update. Here's the latest report:

" I have had some positive experiences with the Cube update. The USB Pro Speakers that came with the Cube would always seem to cut out every so often (sometimes even less than 5 minutes). I would have to unplug and replug the speakers back in to get the sound back (speakers were plugged directly into the Cube). So far, after about 3 hours, the speakers haven't cut out yet. G4 Cube, 450 Mhz, 64MB RAM, 9.1 (on one partition--haven't tried out my 9.2.1/OS X partition yet).
--Tim "

I don't know if that 64MB of RAM note was a typo, but with memory so cheap now I'd want at least 256MB for OS X or OS 9 use personally.
I updated my Cube last night and have seen no negative effects so far.

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iMovie 2.1.1 Update for OS 9 - Compatiblity Issues with Non-Apple Plugins:
I had a very strange experience with the iMovie 2.1.1 update last night. I installed it on two machines. No errors during the download, verifying the disk image, or during updating the previous 2.01 version was seen. However on the DP500, I could not use the "Export" to Quicktime option. If I selected Camera, or iDVD as options, things were ok. If I selected Quicktime as the export - the dialog box vanished. It worked fine on another Mac, so after trashing the prefs, etc. did not help, I copied the iMovie 2.1.1 file from the working machine to the DP500 and that solved it. I'm still not sure why this happened on this one machine. [Update - a reader said this QT export problem in 2.1.1 was due to the Toast 5 VCD extension in the System folder - but I guess he means the plug-in installed in the iMovie folder, since I made no changes to my system folder. If you have installed Toast 5 and have problems with iMovie 2.1.1, try removing the "Toast Video CD Export" iMovie plugin. I've written Roxio about this today.]

Matthew Culmore noted he had problems applying the update, saying the updater said it was not in the default location (even after he moved the folder back to the default location). I did not see any updater here on two installs (which had the iMovie folder in the Applications (OS 9) folder).

Matthew also said that GeeThree noted their previous Slick plugin pack for iMovie2 did not work with the 2.1.1 update. However I checked their web site today and see they have an update for iMovie 2.1.1 compatibilty for Slick.

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More Reports of Disabled RAM after 4.1.9 Firmware Update:
(Note - this is the 3rd report, with an interesting note/tip)
" Memory loss happened to me, too. Two 256 megabyte dimms on my early AGP G4/400 weren't recognized after the firmware update, but after running DIMM First Aid three times I'm back up to my normal 832 megabytes of RAM. They do show up as 10ns since fixing them with DIMM First Aid, but if there is a slowdown in performance it isn't perceptible to me.
Great site, btw. Love visiting.
Dan Scott "

(original post follows)
I'm so swamped with mails that I've not had time to read all the ones on the firmware updates, but so far I have only seen a few reports of dimms not being recognized after v4.1.9 was applied, so I assume problems are rare. (That's little consolation to those affected I know.)
My Cube and DP500 both are fine after the update (they were also ok after the previous 4.1.8 update). Here's the 2nd report I've had from a reader noting a dimm not recognized after the 4.1.9 firmware was applied:

" Hi Mike,
A cautionary tale - I updated to the 4.1.9 firmware on my G4/500 just there, and it disabled a 128 meg DIMM that worked fine with the previous 4.1.8 firmware. It's listed as a PC100-222S DIMM and is marked "not compatible" in Apple System Profiler now.

The last time round, I didn't update until I had ran DIMMCheck which said the RAM was fine, and I didn't have a problem with the 4.1.8 firmware at all. Now DIMMCheck says the RAM is okay, but it's not configured (presumably because the machine deactivated it) and concludes it is faulty. Running DIMMCheck didn't see any problem with the RAM prior to the firmware update.

It might be the case that the RAM has a problem, but I never had any sign of trouble before updating.

Anyway, the new firmware did change something else - for better or worse I don't know.
If there's anything you'd like me to check, let me know.
James"

I asked if he could send the DimmFirstAid report text on the dimm.
Unlike the 4.1.8 firmware update, it seems based on these two reports that DimmFirstAid/Dimmcheck is not a sure way to verify your RAM will be ok after the update, even if it was not affected by the previous 4.1.8 firmware. (Past reports and links to DFA are at this feedback page.)
Update: On 9/29, the iMac owner that first reported an unrecognized dimms in yesterday's news said removing it and reseating it solved the problem. (Apparently a contact issue.)

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AppleWorks 6.2.1 Update for OS X:
" Apple has quietly posted Appleworks 6.2.1 update for MacOS X 10.1. The website says it adds extra features, but doesn't specify exactly what.
I applied the update, but I don't see any visible difference, though I'm only running OS X 10.0.4 (not fortunate enough to already have 10.1).
Available at www.apple.com/appleworks (multiple languages are listed)
Mike"

The 6.2.1 update link in the sidebar there goes to this page with the links and info on the update.

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Reader Comments on Tabbed Browser Windows in OS X Mozilla:
" Hi Mike, Just thought you and some of your readers might like to know that the newest builds of Mozilla have been incorporating the first ever 'Tabbed Browser' functions on the Mac platform (that I'm aware of). I've been using something like this on Windows, and especially on notebooks, because of the space-saver aspects of being able to organized multiple browser windows in tabs. I've been dying for one for my iBook and now I've got one!

With IE5.1 for OSX looking duller and duller every day (due to it's unbelivably slow progress), Mozilla is really becoming a fine alternative web browser, if not a winner (just yet).

Just so you know what I'm talking about, I've attached a picture of what it looks like.
Regards,
Satoru Murata
I asked what version he was runing-Mike

Actually, it's still in the 'nightly build' status, which means it's not a full release yet. You can download the nightly builds at
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/
The current build is 2001092620
The implementation is still immature compared to what you can get on the Windows and even Linux platforms, but once it's out, it's only going to get better (knock on wood) ;-)"

The .tiff file is too large to post, but this does look like a great feature. I'm going to try that browser as soon as I can.

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CDRW/CD/DVD/Hard Drive Compatibility Database Updates:
The Drive Compatibility searchable database had 7 new reports added this morning. The database includes reports on Combo DVD-CDRW, CDROMs, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, CDRW, Hard Drives and Removables (tape drive, ORB, ZIP, MO drives, etc.) in all interface types (IDE, IDE RAID cards, Firewire, SCSI, adapters). Current total 4,847 reports. Here are today's additions:

    Combo DVD/CDRW Drive Reports:
  • Toshiba SD-R1102 in G4/AGP 2001

    IDE CDRW Reports:
  • Plextor PX-W2410A (24/10/40) in G4/AGP
    [not bootable w/1.0 firmware]

    SCSI CDRW Reports:
  • Yamaha 6416S (external) 6x/4x/16x w/73-7600

    IDE DVD ROM Drive Reports:
  • Creative labs 12x in G4/AGP
    (listed under "other brands")
  • Sony 16X in G4/AGP (problems noted)
  • Toshiba SD-M1202 in Beige G3

    IDE Hard Drive Reports:
  • IBM 60GXP 40GB in 9600 with IDE PCI Card

You can find full owner reports by searching the database by drive/brand/interface/mac models (the latest reports are shown first in searches).
For guides to installing CD/CDRW/DVD drives or Hard drives in many mac models, see the IDE Articles page. The Firewire articles page also has guides on case kits, installing drives, etc.
If you've added a IDE, SCSI, Firewire or USB hard drive, CDRW, tape drive, etc. make sure you add a report to the database. [If you post an updated entry - make sure you use the same name, etc. as you did before so I can find your past entry. Thanks.]

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CPU Upgrades Owner Reports Database Updated:
The Rate Your CPU Upgrade database has been updated with 3 new reports today (total to date: 6,249).

  • Powerlogix G3/500 in 8500 (rated 6)
    [problems noted - perhaps related to original L2 cache dimm]
  • XLR8 CarrierZIF w/Apple G3/350 CPU in PowerTower Pro 225 (rated 10)
  • 2001 G4/AGP (Quicksilver 733) OC report

(Warning - Overclocking may not be reliable and could lead to hardware failure or corrupted data.) You can find the full reports by searching the database selecting the indicated Mac model and upgrade card brand/type. If you've upgraded the CPU on your Mac, please post an entry in the database. Search the database for entries from most every upgradable Mac model *before* you buy. (Searchable by mac model/upgrade brand). For detailed reviews with performance tests and install tips, see the CPU Upgrades page.)

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News pages from 1, 2 and 3 years ago:
(Sometimes these old pages are a bit embarrassing - and in many cases the offsite links may not work and comments there were accurate only on the date posted regarding upgrade availability, etc.)

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