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News stories of Sept. 16th, 2002:

Apple Doc w/Tips on No Video on Wake from Sleep with Jaguar and PowerBooks
    " Apple finally released a bulletin about this:
    PowerBook: Wakes From Sleep, but Screen Is Dark
    The problem is that when PowerBooks wake from sleep, the screen remains "off", even though the computer is actually on. I managed to fix mine somehow (I think booting into OS 8.6, and reinstalling Mac OS X 10.2 did the trick, but I'm not completely sure). I hope they fix this in a future patch.

I don't think all PowerBook owners are seeing this but it must be common for Apple to post a Kbase doc on it.

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More Grist for the Rumor Mill: Article w/Concept (fake) photo of iPhone
As a followup to last months story on a news site speculating on Apple producing an 'iPhone', a reader sent a note about another iPhone related website article with their concept/hypothetical image of what the iPhone would look like:

    "Hi Mike, i've found this interesting article on an italian site.
    Here is the url:
    (italian page, use google or babelfish to translate)
    It seems a fake image..
    (the article notes the image is just a hypothetical/concept of what the iPhone may look like-Mike
    "Here one hypothetical reconstruction of the look of the i-Phone, made assembling parts of Macintosh hardware"
    Btw take a look..
    Daniele T."
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Oops - Apple Kbase Article on OS X 10.2.1 Update (now pulled)
A reader posted a note in the forums that there was (for a short time) a premature Apple Kbase doc on the OS X 10.2.1 update at (as of 7PM Eastern time it's been pulled). I assume this means the 10.2.1 update is to be available soon.
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Another iMac 233-333Mhz G4 CPU Upgrade Option
Although Powerlogix has a faster G4/500 iForce G4 model for the iMac 233-333MHz models ($369 list, $349.99 at OWC - no module trade-in required), Technowarehouse sent a note that they are now offering a G4/433Mhz CPU upgrade for the iMac (233-333Mhz) also for $324 ($299 after rebate sent upon return of your original iMac CPU module). Both upgrades are based on the 7410 G4 CPU. So far there's only one PowerLogix G4 iMac upgrade report in the Rate Your CPU upgrade database however (dated 7/10/2002).
Back on July 19th, 2000 (before OS X was released), I posted a full review of the original Newer Tech G4/433 upgrade in my iMac rev A w/Voodoo2 mezzanine slot card. (It was based on the G4 7400 CPU chip.)
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Tip for PCI Radeon Card Corrupted Display After Wake from Sleep in OS X 10.2
(I've been meaning to post this for awhile now, but better late than never.)
An old tip from the past for OS X problems with Radeon PCI cards was to manually copy the "Rom Xtender" OS 9 extension to OS X. (Tip first noted in the Oct. 2001 ATI ROM update readme file here.) Recently I've had two ATI Radeon PCI card owners note that same tip also solved problems they had after updating to OS X 10.2 (Jaguar). The latest reader mail noted it fixed a corrupted video problem after wake from sleep with his Radeon 7000 PCI card.

If you're having problems with a PCI Radeon card in OS X 10.2, try manually copying the ATI ROM Xtender file (from the latest ATI July 2002 driver update for OS 9) to the OS X /System/Library/Extensions/AppleNDRV folder.

(Another reader replied to this post noting the tip solved the problem)

    " just a note on :"Tip for PCI Radeon Card Corrupted Display After Wake from Sleep in OS X 10.2" (above)
    After updating to 10.2 noticed this horrible bug on awakening from sleep. With this workaround the problem is gone. Very nice. Thanks a bunch. GPU is a beige ATI 7000, the CPU is a DT beige with an XLR8 467 G4.
    Joseph B."
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Jaguar has Problems Reading EDID Information for Some Monitors
(from a reader email this weekend - note that Apple forum links may not be valid over time.)

" I recently installed 10.2 on a clean disk (not an upgrade). I have a Gigabit Ethernet PowerMac G4 500DP. It has the stock AGP Radeon card with a Samsung SyncMaster 770TFT analog LCD monitor attached to the VGA port and an ATI Nexus 128 PCI card with another monitor of the same type attached. The default color profile assigned by the system if much too light and makes the monitors unreadable. If I calibrate with Apple's tool or a 3rd party tool, such as SuperCal, I can change the monitor settings, and it appears that the profile is saved properly. But as soon as I log out or restart, the settings are lost. When I bring up the Color tab of the Display preferences pane, the profile is back on Generic RGB. And no matter what I select, the monitor remains unchanged. I have to completely recalibrate to effect any change.

The developer of SuperCal also pointed out to me the Devices pane in the ColorSync Utility. Under 10.1.5, both of my monitors are listed, but under 10.2, nothing shows up. Further, if I examine /var/log/system.log (or hold down Cmd-V on startup), under 10.1.5, I see information about my monitors detected via the EDID protocol appropriately, but under 10.2 I see nothing. Under 10.1.5, the file /Library/Preferences/ contains what appears to be reasonable content. Under 10.2, the file is not even present.

There are several threads on the Apple discussion boards with many other people having the exact same problem - most with Samsung LCD monitors, but one cited the problem with an Apple 20" monitor (presumably a CRT).
* Discussions:Mac OS X:Getting Started and General Use:Using Mac OS X:Colorsync + Samsung LCD Doesn't work
* Discussions:Mac OS X:Getting Started and General Use:Using Mac OS X:Monitor Color Setting Doesn't Hold 10.2
* Discussions:Mac OS X:Getting Started and General Use:Using Mac OS X:10.2,ColorSync, Samsung SyncMaster 760V TFT

I spoke with an Apple product specialist at length, but he was not able to offer any solutions.
I believe this to be a bug in Jaguar that will hopefully be addressed by 10.2.1.

I and another DVI Cinema display owner also noted a problem (black screen/no video) after changing modes in 10.2. Not a problem in 10.1.5, but easily repeatable in 10.2 after changing screen resolutions a few times in the finder, or in games. (Unplugging/reconnecting the display AC power was the only way to restore video on my Cinema display.)

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OS X 10.2 and 10.1.x Drivers for Que USB CDRW Drives
(From a reader email)

" Here is some great news:
On September 11, Cypress Semiconductor posted an updated Mass Storage Driver 1.4.0 that makes those of us who have the original QPS QUE USB CD Burners compatible with OS X 10.2. There is not a mention of this on the QUE website, and in fact the link there for v1.3 was even outdated as 1.3.2 was released subsequently to v1.3 that is mentioned there.

I have the original 4x2x8 Que Drive with the Mitsumi 4802 mechanism.

Cypress Mac OS X Mass Storage Driver v1.4.0 (see bottom of that page for driver links for OS X 10.2.x and 10.1.x)

I personally sent Cypress a thank you as I am certain there is not much reason for them to continue to support such an outdated device but I thought it was important for them to know this.
Mike T. "

Some Que drives may have a CDRW mechanism that is still not supported by iTunes however.
Note: there may be other USB CDRWs that use the Cypress based bridge, so this drive may help with other USB CDRW drives that have had problems with OS X. (It won't solve all drive problems of course.) I've added this info to the FAQ's CDROM/CDR section for future reference.

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Modified Support File for LG 4320B Combo Drive and OS X 10.1.x (and 10.2)
I've updated the FAQ item on OS X plugin files for the LG 4320B Combo DVD/CDRW drive to include a reader's modified LG plugin file for 10.1.x. (Friday's news had notes about the 10.2 plugin file.)

NOTE: As with all modified files - these are provided "as-is" with no warranty or support. These files replace the existing files of the same name and to avoid permissions issues in OS X you may want to boot into OS 9 to replace the OS X file, or use the terminal as root. Although option is to get info on the plugin file and temporarily change permissions.)

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Jaguar Battery Life and Apple iCal Reports Pages Updated
I've updated the pages of reader reports on Battery Life in Jaguar and comments on iCal.
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Beige G3 Owner Report on Sleep Problems/Fix for OEM 24x CD Drive
A Beige G3 with original 24x CDROM drive sent a long email on how he fixed his sleep problems with the drive. First using an older CD/DVD extension, then a old firmware 2.0 CD update Apple released years ago for the original 24x CD drives. (Not sure how many readers still have an original 24x CD drive in their beige G3 and didn't update it with that release back then, but posting this just in case.)
(copy of the email follows)

    "Hi Mike here's a goodie!
    I recently purchased a Beige G3 266 with Mac OS 9.2.2 installed. Every time I put the computer to sleep it instantly froze. I isolated the problem to the Apple CD/DVD extension (version 1.4.3 - Mac OS 9.2.x).

    Trying other versions of the Apple CD/DVD extension, I finally found that version 1.3.1 of the Apple CD/DVD extension allowed my Beige G3 266 to sleep (from Mac OS 9.0). Unfortunately it would only sleep if I didn't have a CD mounted in the CD-ROM (music or data - no difference). With a CD in, it froze again when being put to sleep! I then double checked and found that using the correct Apple CD/DVD extension for Mac OS 9.2.2 (version 1.4.3) with a CD mounted in the CD-ROM the computer would then go to sleep correctly.

    So to put it simply:
    Apple CD/DVD extension version 1.4.3, CD mounted - sleep, not mounted - freeze.
    Apple CD/DVD extension version 1.3.1, CD mounted - freeze, not mounted - sleep.
    Each had the reverse effect.

    I then tried Mac OS 8.6 and 9.0 default installs respectively. No success, all exhibiting the problem found with version 1.3.1 of the extension. This was looking a lot like a hardware problem. <>P> The next port of call was the Apple website. Selecting 'Support' I entered a search using the criteria, "Sleep problem". The result was a list of links beginning with AppleCare Document:24714. This looked very promising.

      About Power Macintosh G3 CD Update 2.0 Document and Software

      This article comprises the Read Me for Power Macintosh G3 CD Update version 2.0 and software links.

      The G3 CD Update installs new firmware on certain 24x CD-ROM drive mechanisms. This new firmware insures correct sleep and wakeup behavior. G3 CD Update 2.0 replaces G3 CD Update 1.0, and is meant for use on all Power Macintosh G3 models.

      All Power Macintosh G3 computers with CD-ROM drives.

    After running the firmware update, the sleep problem was cured - the computer operated correctly.

    Some notes about the update: It's written by Sony, so doesn't conform to the normal Macintosh look and feel. It expects Mac OS 8, so thinks that Mac OS 9.x is System 7, ignore the warning and proceed with the update. It ejects the CD tray, let it - it doesn't matter - push it back in if you like. It turns the computer off when it finishes - not a restart as one might expect. Just restart and your beige G3 should operate correctly.
    Many regards,
    Peter Cole"

BTW - This update was noted here a few years ago on the G3-ZONE news page. (I've now added it to the Beige G3 troubleshooting page.)

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Rate Your CPU Upgrade Reports Database Updated
The Rate Your CPU Upgrade database has been updated today with 7 new reports. Total to date: 7,461. (Entries made today are posted the next newsday morning.)
Here's a summary of the updates:

  • Newer Tech G4/400 in 8500/120 (rated 10)
  • Other World Computing G4 550 in B&W G3 (rated 9)
  • Other World Computing G4/450 in Beige G3 (rated 9)
  • PowerLogix G4/800 in G4/AGP (rated 9)
  • Sonnet G4/450 in 7500 (rated 10)
  • Sonnet G4/800 in Genesis MP (rated 9)
  • Sonnet G4/800 in 9600/300 (rated 8)

(Warning - Overclocking may not be reliable and could lead to hardware failure or corrupted data.) You can find the full reports by searching the database selecting the indicated Mac model and upgrade card brand/type. If you've upgraded the CPU on your Mac, please post an entry in the database. Search the database for entries from most every upgradable Mac model *before* you buy. (Searchable by mac model/upgrade brand). For detailed reviews with performance tests and install tips, see the CPU Upgrades page.)

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CDRW/CD/DVD/Hard Drive/Cardreader Compatibility Database Updates
The Drive Compatibility searchable database had 27 new reports added this morning. The database includes reports on Combo DVD-CDRW, CDROMs, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, CDRW, Hard Drives and Removables (tape drive, ORB, ZIP, MO drives, CF/Smartmedia readers, etc.) in all interface types (IDE, IDE RAID cards, Firewire, SCSI, adapters). Current total 8,465 reports. Here's a summary listing of today's new reports. (Does not include updates to previous entries)

    Tape Drive Reports:
  • USB ACOMdata ADR 30 used w/G4 no AGP (OS 9.2)
    (listed under "other" brands - actually onstream drive, noted problems with retrospect)

    CD-ROM Drive Reports:
  • IDE Sony CDU5211 52X in 4400 PowerMac (OS 9.1)

    Combo DVD+CDR Drive Reports:
  • IDE LG GCC-4320B (32x10x40x + 16x DVD ROM) in B&W G3 (OS 9.2)
    (noted freezes booting in OS 9.2, but working in 10.2.)]
  • IDE LG GCC-4320B (32x10x40x + 16x DVD ROM) in B&W G3 (OS X)
    (see FAQ for modified iTunes support file)
  • IDE Plextor PX-320A (20x10x40x + 6x DVD ROM) in G4/AGP (OS X)
    (no iTunes support and sounded as if no discburner support)

    DVD-R DVD Recorder Drive Reports:
  • IDE Pioneer DVR-104 in G4/AGP (OS 9.2)
    (problems noted)

    DVD ROM Drive Reports:
  • IDE Lite-On LTD 163D (16x/48x) in B&W G3 (OS 9.1)

    IDE CDRW Drive Reports:
  • HP CD-Writer+ 9300 8x4x32x in B&W G3 (OS X)
    (no burn support in OS X)
  • Lacie (sanyo) CDBP-161040A (16x10x40x) in Beige G3 (OS X)
  • Lacie 12x10x32 in Dual G4 (OS X)
  • Lite-On LTR-40125S (40x12x48x) in G4/AGP (OS 9.2)
    (not itunes/db support in 9.2 he said - OS X fully supports it)
  • Lite-On LTR-40125S (40x12x48x) in Beige G3 (OS 9.2)
    (problems noted in 9.2, ok in 8.5/8.6)
  • Lite-On LTR-48125W (48x12x48x) in G4/AGP (OS X)
  • Pacific Digital Mach 40 (40x12x48) in Dual G4 DDR (OS X)
    (listed under 'other' brands - drive mech. was actually Lite-On)
  • Philips PCRW2412 (24x12x40x) in Beige G3 (OS 9.2)
    (noted disabling Toast reader ext. solved interface unstable errors)
  • Que QPCRW401240I (40x12x48) in Dual G4 DDR (OS X)
    (no burn support, I suspect one of the Que boxes with the 'no-name' 40x mechanisms)
  • Samsung SW-232B (32x10x40) in Dual G4 DDR (OS X)
    (noted modified iTunes file in FAQ didn't work for him)
  • Sony CRX175A1 24x10x40x i Beige G3 (OS 9.2)
    (no itunes support - said mod files in FAQ here didn't work with her drive)
  • TDK VeloCD 401240X (40x12x48x) in G4/AGP (OS X)
    (No discburner or iTunes support )
    (FYI - Illustrated CD drive install guide here covers G4 towers up to the Digital Audio Model, Beige G3 MT, B&W G3 and 8600/9600 Macs)

    Firewire CDRW Drive Reports:
  • Lite-On LTR-16101B 16x10x40x (AcomData retail box) used w/B&W G3 (OS 9.2)
  • Que QPS 32x10x40x (Mitsumi CR-48XATE) used w/G4 AGP (OS X)
    (using modifed plugin file)
  • Que 12x10x32 (Plexor mechanism) used w/B&W G3 (OS X)
    (Noted FAQ tip on B&W G3 firewire problems (use PCI card) helped. OWC FW PCI card solved OS X burn problems)
  • Ricoh MP7320A (32x10x40) in FW case used w/PowerBook G4 (OS X)
    (no iTunes support)

    USB CDRW Drive Reports:
  • Que QPCDRW428 (4x2x8x) used w/G4 AGP (OS X)
    (noted no OS X 10.2 support - but see news item above for link to page w/drivers.)

    IDE Hard Drive Reports:
  • IBM 60GXP 60GB in Dual G4 DDR using IDE PCI Card RAID (OS X)
  • IBM 75GXP 45GB in Dual G4 (OS X)
    (Illustrated guide to adding a 2nd HD here)
  • Maxtor 40GB in Dual G4 DDR (OS X)

You can find full owner reports (latest shown first) by searching the database by drive/brand/interface/mac models (the latest reports are shown first in searches). For guides to installing CD/CDRW/DVD drives or Hard drives in many mac models, see the IDE Articles page. The Firewire articles page also has guides on case kits, installing drives, etc.
If you've added a IDE, SCSI, Firewire or USB hard drive, CDRW, tape drive, etc. make sure you add a report to the database. [If you post an updated entry - make sure you use the same name, etc. as you did before so I can find your past entry. Thanks.]
(Entries today will be added the following newsday. Incomplete entries are deleted. Do not post questions in the database, it's for drive reports not questions on what drive to buy - for that try searching the database for reports from owners of your mac model on the drive type/brand/interface, etc. you're interested in.)

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Reader Game Reviews Database Updated:
The Rate Your Mac Games database updates today included another review of Medal of Honor Allied Assault . Total Reviews (all titles): 975. To read game reviews use the search page.
If you've not already done so - Enter a Game review. (If your game title is not in the long listing, select "other game" and note the title in the comments)
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News pages from 1, 2 and 3 years ago:
(Sometimes these old pages are a bit embarrassing - and in many cases the offsite links may not work and comments there were accurate only on the date posted regarding upgrade availability, etc.)

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