News Archive for: 9/23/2005 Friday's News
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Another 9600 Mac/PC Edition report on connector contact/no video issue
Here's another 9600 Mac/PC Edition card owner reporting it finally worked after reseating the card repeatedly. (For those that had the problem reseating didn't always help.) This really sounds like a card/AGP slot connector contact issue. If anyone has this card and some others to compare (board) connector thickness let me know if the 9600 Mac/PC edition is thinner. (One reader replied it appeared to be the same thickness as other cards but didn't have any way to measure it.) I don't have one of these cards to check but reportedly it also does not have the AGP slot locking/retaining tab.
Also if you have this problem see if the contacts look like they have a film over them or are not clean. (An eraser can be used to clean them but don't get too aggressive - you don't want to remove any contact material. There's also contact cleaners but most will not have that on hand.)

" Mike, MDD Dual 1.25 FW800 connected to LG 1980Q flat panel and Mistubishi Diamond Pro 2040U CRT.
I received my ATI 9600 Pro from OWC on the first day of delivery after a three week wait. It replaces a 128mg 9000 Pro retail card.

I installed it six times before it finally fired up. How hard I pressed to seat it did not seem to make any difference. I was getting pretty tired of connecting and reconnecting all the cables (got lots of firewire and USB peripherals attached -including five printers)

Anyway around the 5th try I left the screw out. When I connected the two monitors it giggled the card somewhat to the side -fired up and voila the displays were recognized. (I asked without the AGP slot retaining tab/lock, does screwing the card down cause it to be canted up any bit at the rear of the card connector? I also asked if she could compare the card thickness to another video card. Ideally measuring with a pair a calipers would be best but I'd be curious to know what even a visual comparison side by side shows.-Mike)

I shut down, put the screw in, crossed my fingers, reconnected everything ?all is well everything is running with no problems since. However, I do not look forward to the prospect of opening up the box for any other upgrade for fear of the connection shorting out.
-Diane P "

I don't think it would short out but it could open up (lose contact) based on what you saw installing it.
If any 9600 Mac/PC edition owner can compare the board thickness to another video card that works OK (consisently) let me know if the 9600 card is thinner. Also let me know if cleaning the contacts helps and check to see if the card looks to be fully and evenly seated all along the AGP mating connector length.
(Many years ago there were problems with some CPU upgrade cards for older PCI (CPU card slot) macs, where one of the keying slots in the board edge connector was on the narrow side of the tolerance and didn't allow the card to fully seat.)

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Radeon 9600 Mac/PC + 30in Cinema Display user Notes and Tips
" I installed the 9600 Mac/PC into a 1.25 Ghz MDD with 1.75 GB Ram, running 10.4.2. I purchased it to be able to run a 30 inch ACD. It worked out of the box but I did notice a few things while testing things out.

  • "Enable GFT Modes for CRT" needs to be left checked. If not checked, digital artifacts show up as white pixels various places only on the 30 inch screen. This morning when starting up I noticed the artifacts and, sure enough, that option had unchecked itself. (don't know how that happened)
  • Adding even a 3 feet extension cable causes all sorts of grief, rendering the display barely visible. Even though the dual-link DVI standard calls for 15 feet cable lengths the 30 inch ACD is stuck at the standard 6 feet.
  • When I try to play certain videos using QuickTime and set them to full screen the movie jumps over to my secondary 20 inch screen. I have to use VLC to get these videos to play full screen on the larger monitor.

    Having a 30 inch monitor and a 20 inch monitor is better than having a 20 inch monitor and a 17 inch monitor. :-) So all in all the card makes me very happy.
    - Sam "

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    More iMac G5 owner reports
    I've updated the reports section of the page on iMac G5 Cooling fan mod and temperatures with another reader report from an owner of a 1.8GHz/20in Display model. (He reported no problems but didn't mention any specific temperatures so not sure he had any software like Temperature Monitor installed.)
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    CDRW/CD/DVD/Hard Drive/Storage Compatibility Database Update Listing
    The Drive Compatibility Database had 4 new reports added. (Entries later today are added the next newsday morning.) The database includes reports on CDRWs, Combo DVD-CDRW, DVD-ROM, DVD Burners, Hard Drives and Removables (tape drive, ORB, ZIP, MO drives, NAS, CF/Smartmedia readers, etc.) in all interface types (IDE, IDE RAID cards, SATA, Firewire, SCSI, USB, adapters). Current total - 15,115 reports. (searching by drive type/brand, mac model etc. listed below will show the full reports, most recent first - does not include updates to previous reports) iApps burn support mentioned in reports unless otherwise noted.

      DVD+R/RW + DVD-R/RW Drives:
    • IDE Pioneer DVR-K05 in iBook G4 (OS X 10.4)
    • IDE Samsung TS-H552U in B&W G3 (OS X 10.4)
      (Although Tiger has basic iApps burn support for most drives, he noted using Patchburn 4. Illustrated CD drive install guide here covers B&W G3 and G4 models up to the Digital Audio.)

      CD-ROM Drives:
    • IDE PCI card connected LG CRD-8521B (52X) in 9600 (OS 9.1)

      Hard Drives:
    • IDE Toshiba MK4021GAS 40GB in iBook 2001 (OS X 10.3)
      (FAQ's iBook section has links to iBook take-apart/drive install guides)

    You can find full owner reports (latest shown first) by searching the database by drive/brand/interface/mac models (the latest reports are shown first in searches). For guides to installing CD/CDRW/DVD drives or Hard drives in many mac models, see the IDE Articles page. The Firewire articles page also has guides on case kits, installing drives, etc.
    If you've added a IDE, SCSI, Firewire or USB hard drive, CDRW, tape drive, etc. make sure you add a report to the database. (If you post an updated entry - make sure you use the same name, etc. as you did before so I can find your past entry. Thanks.)
    (Incomplete entries are deleted. Do not post questions in the database, it's for drive reports not questions on what drive to buy - for that try searching the database for reports from owners of your mac model on the drive type/brand/interface, etc. you're interested in.)

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    Rate Your CPU Upgrade Reports Database Updated
    The Rate Your CPU Upgrade database has been updated with 2 new reports (entries later today are added the next newsday morning). Total to date: 10,071. Here's a summary of the reports added (search by brand/mac model for full reports - latest reports always shown first):

    • Other World Computing G4 1.4GHz in (originally 350MHz) G4/AGP (rated 10)
    • PowerLogix G4 1.6GHz (7447) in (originally 450MHz) G4/AGP (rated 9)

      (Full reviews of G4 and G3 upgrades compared to stock CPUs, including real world apps/game tests, install info, etc. are linked at the CPU upgrades page. OC/CPU module articles are on the Systems page.)

    (Warning - Overclocking may not be reliable and could lead to hardware failure or corrupted data.) You can find the full reports by searching the database selecting the indicated Mac model and upgrade card brand/type. If you've upgraded the CPU on your Mac, please post an entry in the database. Search the database for entries from most every upgradable Mac model *before* you buy. (Searchable by mac model/upgrade brand).

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