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11/15/00 Wednesday's News: Story DetailReturn to News Page
Netscape 6 Feedback/Reader Reports:
Last Updated: 11/15/2000, 11 AM
I'm sticking with Netscape 4.x for now, but many readers sent their opinions and experiences with the recently released Netscape v6 for Mac. (latest reports are first)
" I agree with the other comments on speed. It is horribly slow. If it ever hopes to swing users back to Netscape (which may not be its intention anyhow), it will have to be a little more "modern" (if that's the right word). I have a Beige G3/300 with built in ATI graphics, and oodles of RAM.

I thought I'd give it a shot on my (gasp) Dell Dimension (800MHz, 256RAM, NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS 4xAGP) just to see if maybe, just maybe, it was a matter of hardware/ OS/ whatever. Sad to say that it was just a tad faster. Not enormously so, however. It takes about 15 seconds to fully launch. (Compare that to a boot time of 35 seconds).

Maybe the release of N6 just represents the result of a process (corporate to open source) rather than the the result of a grand plan (the best browser).
Mark Amend "


" Hi Mike
Netscape 6 does not appear to support the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer USB which kind of defeats the object... Does not work for me anyhow.

Mac OS 9.0.4
G3 ver2 400 B&W
Intellipoint software ver. 1.1

After IE 5 it is a letdown. The rendering seems slightly better but the layout and GUI are both confusing and cluttered.
Simon Lisney "


" The program seems to work well, although it responds rather slowly. Page loading times could be faster, but i have not confirmed this. My one MAJOR complaint is the lack of the support for the mouse wheel. I have a microsoft Intellimouse explorer, which seems to function spectacularly in all other applications. Maybe a little spiteful programming on Netscape's behalf.

One other drawback is the cumbersome mail and news feature. The configuration settings are not located under the preferences option as in all previous versions of communicator. In order to configure the mail and news settings, the mail window must be open and then you can access the seemingly hidden option under the edit menu. Even after doing so, the new method of editing and adding settings is quite odd. I think I will stick with entourage as far as mail goes, as it seems to be the best mail suite to date. Hope this helps.
Fred G.
P.S. One more thing i noticed while typing this message is the lack of instant spell check. You can however choose to have your message automatically checked before sending, however this seems to be less convenient than entourage's little red squiggly lines. "


" I have attempted Netscape 6 on 4 occasions spread over a period of 2 months. All bad. First two attempts, it crashed on installation or re-start following installation. Third and fourth attempts had my G4 crashing after only a few minutes in operation.

This one is only for the brave. I'll wait for NS 7.
Larry G. "


" I use the Internet heavily day in and day out, and have been quite happy with all Netscape 4.7x incarnations.

I use an iMac DV 400 and a G3 PowerBook, both running Mac OS 9.0.4 and accessing the Internet via a cable modem.

Internet Explorer is designed completely wrong for my purposes. I could detail lots of specifics, but that's too big a topic to address in this email.

Netscape is designed acceptably. I make two minor changes to the font settings: to work with 10pt Geneva for Variable Width text; and 9pt Mishawaka (for the barred zero character) for Fixed Width text. All web pages then display great, except for those designed (in ignorance/contempt of Mac users) with text too small to be read comfortably. At least it's readable.

Two pages act as a great test of a browser's ability to satisfy me:

    Slashdot's Cheesy Portal http://www.slashdot.org/cheesyportal.pl

    Excite's home page http://www.excite.com

Netscape 6 prevents me from being able to specify fonts in a way which allows me to view the Excite page as compactly as Netscape 4.7x. Netscape 6 also turns the table arrangement of the Slashdot site into crap. Other sites I frequent are similarly problematic, but Excite and Slashdot are representative of the kinds of rendering challenges I have encountered with various browsers over the last couple of years.

I am also fond of a much simpler, more spartan interface. Netscape 6 allows me to choose the Classic look, but does not allow me to disable the toolbar icons. I prefer text-only buttons, thank you very much.

I accept Netscape's desire to build a new browser on the Gecko engine for the purpose of future demands for XML and other extensions of the current web protocols. But for the time being, it is unacceptable for my purposes.

I am hopeful that future builds based on Gecko will eventually meet my interface preferences and also render existing web pages as cleanly and compactly as the 4.7x versions. But until that happens, I will wait.

If Netscape discontinues the 4.7x line before the Gecko line improves, I will switch to iCab.
Regards,
David "


" I think Netscape 6 is great step forward. It's not all there yet, but have you looked at the underlying web based technology which actually running the app!? The entire application is built with CSS and Javascript and XML and .gif images!! Plus you've got full standards compliance, and a neat themes capability. Sort of like MP3 players these days..

The page loads are actually as fast or faster than IE5, i timed it on my G4 450. But compared to NS6 on my Winbox, the NS6 mac UI is quite a bit unresponsive and sluggish.

I think the look and feel might be a bit hokey, but it's fun. You can always switch it back to the "classic" mode if you don't like it, and you can also download new themes, like "Mozillium" from http://www.netscape.com/themes, which is much cooler .

I suspect they will get this unresponsive feel to the UI hammered out, since the software is essentially a 1.0 product. They scrapped 5.0 about 2 years ago, and rewrote the entire browser from the ground up.

I think we all ought to support web standards, if that's what Netscape is after, i will stick with them. As MS continues to try and "rewrite" the web for everyone.
- Marlon Bishop "


" I still prefer using NetScape Communicator 4.75 over internet Explorer - it loads quicker, renders images quicker and JAVA loads quicker too - I use it every day and it is clearly faster to me than IE...
Don "


" My opinions of the released Netscape 6 are fairly low. I have only used it for 1 day however, so I may be a better judge of it after a few more days.

However, I feel the INTERFACE is sluggish and not quite ready for prime-time. The pages do SEEM to render out quicker, but it is hard to tell with such menu sludge. It is equally as slow on my home beige 266 with 192MB RAM and at work on my G4/400 with 192MB RAM.

Speaking of RAM.... whew what a RAM hog! Untouched, mine was running at a whopping 48MB! Crazy stuff.

I still regret the day Netscape crossed paths with AOL... The product has gone downhill ever since. They need to quit worrying about making it "easier" and "more feature packed" and just make it GOOD.
--jamus "


" Netscape 6 loads pages considerably faster than 4.7.6 (and all previous Netscape versions) on my system, and so far I haven't had any problems with it at all. It didn't pick up all of my previous Preference settings, but it did import all my Bookmarks. I'm running it on a G3 500 upgraded 8600/300.
James D. "


" Greetings Mike,
I just completed my evaluation of Netscape 6 by attempting to load www.roland.co.jp, resulting in a crash (non-recoverable).

It's definitely not faster than MS Internet Explorer 5. Worse, it seems none of the windows--even preferences--take any advantage of graphics acceleration. Everything is floppy and spongy on my otherwise-quick PowerBook (FireWire) running 9.0.4. It feels like I'm running a Windows application inside Virtual PC.

During install, NS6 assimilated my bookmarks and cookies. Everything was mostly good here, except for a bookmark folder which contained the entire set once again. That probably had something to do with my use of a single bookmark file for both Communicator 4.76 and IE5.

Unfortunately, the program came with no MIME type associations (file helpers) aside from text/html, and didn't import any. I went to a site with embedded MIDI, and it wouldn't play, popping up a window offering to find the necessary plug-in. Following that link resulted in a generic search for every plug-in under the sun, not even choosing Macintosh as the platform. So I quit NS6 and copied the QuickTime 4 plug-in into its Plug-Ins folder. No difference. Looking in Preferences revealed no automatic MIME associations to QT, or any hint that QuickTime was available.

Minor gripe (I get the feeling there will be many more): When a background image is an animated GIF, it causes all foreground elements to redraw with every frame. It ain't pretty.

The only good thing in this whole mess? Navigator is back, installable without all the extraneous bloat like email and news. You can even disable "Netscape Instant Messenger" and the installer doesn't have an option Real Player (that I recall). There is a Communicator download option at Netscape's site for those inclined.

It took a long time for me to get used to IE5, being a long-time Netscape user. But I will be happy to keep using IE5, except for those few sites which have IE5-unfriendly "features" (I'm keeping a growing list, though MS doesn't seem interested). Netscape Communicator 4.76 still handles that stuff just fine.
Glenn Gutierre "


" The first time I downloaded it I got it to work ok, but it was pretty sluggish. Since then I've tried to reinstall it on the same machine as well as on my powerbook and and both times I couldn't get it to work afterwards. I double-click the icon, the splash screen appears, and then there's nothing. It doesn't freeze my computer, or prevent me from continuing my work, it just doesn't open. Not even so much as an error message.....well, then...command-delete.
Zoot "


" Hmmm.
Well, the worst thing is that it reliably kills my secondary 15" monitor (which is on the vid card in slot 1, ATI Mach64, thus has the system menu & drives on it) about 75% of the time. Repeatable. Black screen, still has a mouse pointer, restart required. Main 19" monitor is OK (Ultimate Rez, slot 2).

CSS support is not exactly exhaustive (try position:fixed).

The installer doesn't allow you to choose install folder.

"OK" button in preferences doesn't work. "Cancel" applies the new prefs. Eek!

The sidebar-thing sucks even harder than IE's.

Main toolbar isn't customizable? It's inexcusable that there's no "larger/smaller fonts" button, & you have to go into prefs to change size.

That's a clunky Windows/Linux-style interface, not a Mac app at all. Just look at a form menu or button. Gah. I'm using the old-style look, but even that's ugly as hell.

The rendering engine is indeed faster than the old one. But it isn't any faster than IE5...

It insists on putting a "documents" folder on my system drive every time it's run, just to stick its prefs in, duh.

It'll be useful for standards-compliant web development & testing (which I am involved in as part of my graphic design business), but it sure as hell isn't going to be my regular browser. Personally, the preview release was working better for me, apart from being slow.

(he later wrote)

Well, further to my comments below, I've just spent about 3 hours repairing a bunch of trashed disk directories & files/resources/prefs. All of a sudden a number of problems were appearing:

Eudora crashing (normally extremely stable - prefs were corrupted). Mounting CDs, opening folder windows crashing the Mac. Random freezes.
Missing memory.
Damaged System file.
Damaged Finder prefs & others.
etc etc...

I was on the point of doing a global reformat & restore from backup (which takes about a day, gah), but managed to identify the problems & fix things with Techtool Pro & Diskwarrior. I think.

I'm not positive Netscape 6 caused all this, but it's very suspicious that I installed it last night, & have had serious problems all day today. I have now expunged all traces of Netcape 6 from my system...
John Pitcairn "


" In one word: slow.
I'm running a Powerbase 180 upgraded with a 7200 rpm Quantum. Netscape 6 with the hundreds of .js, lib, jar, js and slib files is constantly hitting the drive for any operations other than page rendering. Drop down menus can hang for seconds before anything happens. Netscape 4.7 and IE 5 feel super fast in comparison.
Gilbert Dong "


" This is the very first browser that I have actually deleted from my system. This isn't even what I'd consider alpha software.. just way too many things are broken.. I'll mention 2.. the app seems to ALWAYS insist on placing it opening browser widow in the middle of my screen. Not centered by any means, just vaguely over there. AND about 1 inches worth is off screen! No matter what I do, it will ALWAYS start there. Second, most (but not all) of the time when I try and access the Preferences, all I get is a blank window. And most of the time I have to force quit the application to "break out" of having that damn window open. Command period does nothing, hitting return/enter does nothing either. Yet I HAVE actually seen what goes in there.. may once or twice out of over a dozen times trying to get to it. Lemme tell you.. I've been using Netscape since the pre-alpha days.. and they had some pretty unstable code in those days.. but I think it was more solid back then. Hell I think .9 was the first code that was widely available.. and it was a damn site better than this mess.
-- Paul Constantine "


" I'll have to admit, the built in skin is pretty darn ugly. On the plus side it seems reasonably stable to me. I like Instant Messenger being built in on the sidebar. (More for new users than for anything else IMO) My only complaint is how my text seems to get chopped up on web pages. Other than that, I like it. Nice change that's free. Try it out!
Steven Chavez "


" Hi again
netscape 6 is good.... I had no problems with the first install, but then when I tried to reinstall it with mail support, I could not. several downloads/instalation/first run problems...

i think it's a good browser .. as fast as ie 5 (sometimes faster), and technicaly speaking, it's snappier, heehhe
but i think mozilla (i have the latest nightly build) is better..... perhaps it's cleaner and more dynamic (in matters of development ).

I am having some problems with tables..... they are rendered out of place ! ... tucows looks terrible even apple's home page has some problems..... I question the WC3 compatibility...
but it's not rock solid as ie 5, and not reliable as ie 5....
perhaps someday it will be good....
even netscape 4.7.6 is more reliable....
i recomend the download..... perhaps someday we could defeat uncle bill!
Dan "


" Tried Netscape 6 for about 15 minutes before giving it up. It is very slow compared 4.76. I didn't think it rendered pages as quickly as 4.76, and even after the page is rendered, scrolling is very slow and jerky. The pref dialogs are also slow -- every time I clicked on a button or selected a new pref in the left pane, there was a delay before the dialog updated. It was also kind of messed up -- in a few spots, check boxes overlap. You have to enlarge the window to see all of the items in some of the windows. It doesn't let you select the location for the disk cache. With netscape 4.76, I use a ram disk.

Netscape 6 appears to create a Documents at the root of your startup disk, which contains a Mozilla folder, which appears to contain all of the user profile info. I don't know if I can use aliases to put the cache folder on the ram disk because I didn't want to use it long enough to try.

This is on a 7500 G3/400, 192 MB RAM, VM off, MacOS 8.6.
Mark H. "


" Hi Mike
Just downloaded Netscape 6. I'm using it right now. So far it's very smooth, no glitches. It seems faster. Once you get rid of the side bar stuff, there is plenty of room. The default fonts are clear, and a good size to read. Copy and Paste works extremely well with no weird symbols and no need to clean up beforehand. Re-sizing the window happens instantly without the redrawing process of previous versions. It has not frozen or crashed so far. Time will tell - but so far I like it.
Al "


" I just loaded this "final" release of Netscape 6. All I can say is that it is not final in any aspect. I am running this excuse for a web browser on a 400 MHz iMac, ( slot feed, 2000) with 64Mb RAM, 9.0.4 This thing is less stable than the last preview release. It is also slower than the last release. None of the keyboard commands work, just as in the pre-release versions.

I do like the new look and, shame on me, like the idea of a common interface no matter the platform. But this thing is a step backward from the last release.
In Veritas,
UnlceBugs "


" Re your request for NS 6 comments, well, I was really really trying to like this. However having periodically played with the moz and NS6 beta releases I wasn't that that hopeful. Sadly, my fears were confirmed, the best I can say is that it's not finished yet.

On my machine a G3 upgraded 7500 running at 413 MHz with 96MB of RAM, it felt sluggish, it would take a good long while (the best part of a minute) to load and this is from a nice snappy 7200rpm IBM SCSI drive, I think that this was exacerbated the *EXTREMELY* annoying activation part of the log on, which so far as I can see, logs the user in to my.netscape.com or signs on to some such personalised service for the new sidebar components to use. Cheers Netscape.

It gets better too, not only is it slow to start up, its slow at rendering pages, its slow at scrolling pages, its slow at opening windows, its just plain SLOW. It doesn't appear to be very stable, its crashed at once already while I've been writing this email. It doesn't even appear to be properly finished, as I cant re arrange my the favourites it imported (successfully) from MSIE5. Click and drag to re arrange them says the help file. Suffice to say I tried and it didn't. This above all else is what really made me decide to give up on this release for anything except HTML compatibility testing.

Oh yeah and it renders the top of page gel-button bar www.apple.com badly, weather this is apples fault or Netscape's I'm not sure but iCab, IE and the Mac betas of opera that I've had from opera all manage fine. Strangely www.apple.com/uk seemed fine !?!?

I'm not fantastically keen on the new skin either, but at least you can set that back to the classic Mac platinum appearnce.. although the layout remains confusing.

Basically the whole thing feels like a badly ported windows app, one that's still in beta at that.

30 odd months in development, well I think Netscape are out of the running in the Mac browser war.
stephen "


" Netscape 6 comments:
... repeatedly crashed my G3 MT (466mhz, 256mb, 18gb RAID).
Not an improvement over version 4.75.
Nitya Nadesan "


" First impressions.

Things I don't like about 6:

1. Click/hold doesn't give the popup menu - you must control/click to open link in new window. No one handed surfing...

2. There is no load images button. I hate blinking banners and only load images on demand - like at a manufacturers site.

3. Mail doesn't work, and doesn't ask for a password. I manually enter my pw and change it often.

4. There is no preference to select your download location. I download to my file server.

5. Java/script doesn't appear to work; at least when I tried to dl/load new themes, which is a javascript at the netscape site, it gave me a "white" error window and froze the browser, requiring a force quit.

Things I do like:

1. It looks nice....

2. Less clutter at the top of the browser, and the option to get rid of all the icons you'd never use - like anything that accesses netscape.com....

I'm sticking with 4.75 for now....
O. "


" Sadly, I have to concur, Netscape 6 is a disaster. It takes forever to launch, and once it manages to start up, it is hideously slow and buggy, even on my Powerbook G3/500. This is a very sad situation, and I hope they move to correct it.

Oddly enough, NS6 will not run correctly on my G3/400. When I load a web page, it just loads the first couple of lines of HTML, then stops and reports "Done." It is obviously some obscure init conflict or something, since it does run on the Powerbook. But I've been unable to isolate the problem so far.

The worst new "misfeature" is that the scroll bars are inaccessible by my scroll mouse. I have to scroll the windows manually. I don't know how or why the developers would create scrollbars that can't be accessed by a scroll wheel, but they did. Apparently these scrollbars are custom programming and not from the Mac Toolbox. Very sloppy programming.

There was some discussion of NS6 on the Slashdot.org site a few days ago. Apparently this is still a preview edition, and lags behind the Mozilla weekly development beta releases.

You can read the discussion from a couple of days ago at:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/11/10/052256&mode=thread

And the latest discussion (from today) at:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/11/14/1533230&mode=thread

My belief is that this "final" is still in heavy development, and includes debugging code that is slowing down the program. I hope they manage to make major changes before the next version.
Charles "


" The install froze my machine. After downloading the whole thing, at about 30%, cursor locked up, and that was my trial. Starmax 4000/200, OS 8.6.1. I was hoping there would be an advantage over my current 4.7.6 which crashes often when sending or forwarding mail.
Ralph Finley "


" On a Powerbook G3 FW 400, Netscape 6 started up slow, loaded pages slow, and just about any thing doing with e-mail would lock up. The interface could be overlooked if it was faster than anything else and didn't crash. Needless to say it is in the trash. I also use OSX Beta on this Powerbook and OmniWeb is real nice!
Kevin Spahr "


" Installation was smooth and quick.
Launching also is quick.

I tried it for couple of hours but later decided to switch back to Netscape 4.7 and IE 5.

Here are the problems I have encountered so far:
1) The scroll wheel or auto-scroll button is DISABLE in Netscape.
2) Flash is running really choppy
3) QuickTime files doesn't work properly.
4) NO history option like from IE 5
5) Some web sites that contain heavy style sheets and layer and tables don't show properly

But there are still some good thing about this version:v 1) Password manager is quite handy
2) Page Rendering is faster
3) Doesn't crash as much as the older version of Netscape browser
Pollux"


" I have found multiple bugs using the software for less than an hour. After I changed the dpi to 72 from 96, for example, when I quit and restarted the aapplication, the text used for URLs was tiny and illegible. Also, the navigation control buttons have a tendency to disappear. This is just the beginning to the rather disturbing list of bugs that I stumbled across. Very disturbing.
Marc Opas "


" Mike,
I kind of like it, I thought that the installer was unique. You download a 256 k file that then logs onto the net and when you install, it goes to the net and gets the modules you need. I happen to have DSL, so it went will. If you have a modem, you're there all night.

I also detest them wanting me to have a login to run this on my machine. My login for many things is NJMAUGBILL. I've used this for many items. Netscape told me I couldn't use it! It's my machine, what do you mean I can't use it!

Stupid, Then I tried to connect to something during the installation process, and it couldn't log in. So I clicked the send me my password, and it did! in a Netscape 6 file which wouldn't open because it wasn't finished installing. Very stupid, indeed.

Then I quit everything, and IT started. I don't know what happened, but I feel if I'm confused, the Everyone will be confused.
It does resemble IE 5.
Bill "


" Hey Mike
Just thought I'd let you know, I tried Netscape for an hour this morning and trashed it. It crashed four times, would not access a 128-bit encrypted financial site, and otherwise left me unimpressed. It is not faster at rendering than Explorer, and the interface is not polished, but rather awkward.
Simon Purll "


" Well, let's see.
1) It takes longer to start up.
2) What's this "authorization crap?"
3) Some pages that are fine in 4.x don't load.
5) Hitting the back button to a page that loaded fine sometimes results in a page of code.
6) The new UI takes up extra space on the left side of the screen. What a waste! Terrible for people with smaller screens.
7) The throbber stops and the message at the bottom indicates that the page is done by the window is blank.
8) With some pop-up javascript windows it hangs and you have to force quite.

Who paid AOL/Mozilla to turn out such crap, Microsoft?
I'll stick with 4.X until something good comes out. iCab, can you hear me?
Don Kraig "


" OmniWeb for Mac OSX makes netscape a distant, painful memory.
Martin "


" More poorly written.bloatware, just like Office 2001. What do you expect from a company that's owned by AOL? Ha!
Jason "


" My experience
• Its slow
• 4 seconds delay when opening a page or new window
• crashed a lot
• pages looked bad
• extremely slow scrolling and many other problems as well

I'm running a PM 7500/G3 270mhz with 128mb of ram using on board video (4mb vram). Netscape was wasting they're time making this browser, who knows why they released it?
Kevin Harrigan "


" Terrible interface. Slow and confusing. Any mouse with a scroll whell is rendered useless with Netscape 6...

It took 14 minutes for it to convert one of my 4.76 user settings...

It's too bad Netscape has come to this. This is not a useful version of Netscape.
Googe "


" No popup menus, so you can't send page, open link in new window, save image, or a myriad of other conveniences that exist in 4.7.6. I did find it fairly quick, but the interface is clunky. And that damn activation screen is pretty much an interference to decent launch times. It takes so long to go through on a modem that I looked for a way to remove it completely. 6.0? It is just a little better than the prerelease and certainly a disappointment after waiting this long. Surely a few monkeys could have done better.
John Oswald "


" Let's say I'm less excited than I anticipated.
(I'm running a Beige G3/300 DT w/ 64M RAM w/ a cable modem, BTW)

First time I get the installer, it pulls all the files, installs, then tries to start up Netscape. Emphasis on _tries_. It sort of convulses, wallpapers my desktop with about 100 cryptic simpletext files, then ungracefully crashes into a type 2 error.

After grabbing and installing again, it runs, but slow. Bookmarks are buggy, the "About Netscape" isn't functional, the MIME-types aren't set up at all, and it crashed after a few minutes, and took forever to start up... you get the idea. I was hoping this would let me ditch IE5 in favor of a non-Redmond alternative, but it looks like I'll wait for 6.1
--Josh "


" Unable to use scroll on my Kensington Optical mouse with Netscape 6.
Mike S. "


" (B&W G3/350, 192 MB, Sys 9.0.4)
It works, it's pretty, but what a resource MONSTER! They have far to go performance-wise until I would overlook the bloat.
T. "


" Netscape 6 runs pretty decently on my G4 450 ; a bit slower in my Wallstreet. Is slower when it comes to displaying images like for example Newsgroups.But the Browser part is not all that bad. Has improved a lot over the preview releases; there are non or very few freezes. I think from all the browsers I am using ( including in Os X ) ; IE es the fastest and more reliable; OmniWeb the prettiest and most elegant yet not the fastest ; Icab the less intrusive and Netscape 6 ...well I am not sure yet where to make it out of it .... maybe the next upgrade will be something to really talk about ....
Claudio Gorria "


" I am not impressed. The scrollbars are non-standard and too narrow in my opinion. The loading status bar at the bottom of the window is too small. It takes up 28.5 MB of disk space compared to 10.8 MB for IE 5. There also seems to be some Java problems. I was looking at the ATI home page at http://www.atitech.com/na/pages/na_index.html. During one attempt, it would not load the applet menu/tool bar on that page. On another attempt, selecting the developer page from the resources item caused the applet menu/tool bar to flash after it was reloaded from the developer page. On another attempt, the application crashed when I moved the mouse into the applet menu/tool bar area.

I would definitely not recommend Netscape 6. Navigator 4.7.x is much better. I hate to say this, but I am real comfortable with IE 5 (Mac).
Thanks,
Steve "


" I have to completly disagree with the John W Grubb. I Installed Netscape 6 this afternoon (I have been using all previous releases also) and I love it! The only problem I have with it is lauch time. It takes a little longer for it to start up than Communicator 4.6.

I am a web designer by trade and page speed is a very big topic with me. And I have to say that hands down NN6 renders pages much faster than Communicator and IE5.

If you want to start talking about crappy GU. Lets start with IE5. Could Microsoft please try a little harder to be 'Hip'. I mean for god sake. Design your own look , dont steal it from someone else. The 'Scan Line' look is already taken. Be creative, Think different!

GUI in NN6 is very nice, and if you dont like it, Skin it. Its skinable, so quit yer bitchin'!
Just my 2 cents.
Cody Wray "


"Let me be the first to advise your readers, Netscape 6 is less than it is cracked up to be. It is NOT faster, it does NOT render pages better, and I don't recommend it.

It is smaller. It is a clone of IE 5. It is messy and confusing.
I am running it on a G3/500 upgraded 9500 w/256 Mb of overall RAM under OS 9.04.

Let me reiterate. It is messy. The interface looks like somebody tried to steal a computer console from a B-science fiction movie.

What ever happened to simple and clean, utility and efficiency?
-- John W. Grubb"


 
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