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Review: EVGA GeForce GTX 285 Mac Edition
Published: 6/9/2009
Performance Tests vs ATI 4870, Geforce GT120 in 2009 Mac Pro (Dual 2.66GHz)

Intro/Specs | Apps/Game Tests | Pure Benchmarks | Bootcamp/Vista 64-bit Notes

Notes on Bootcamp/Windows Vista 64-bit Use

I made a separate page for this as some Mac owners don't care to run Windows (or hear about it), although many readers with Intel-based Mac owners are running bootcamp - generally to have access to a huge library of games (many/most that will likely never have an OS X version).
Not to get on a soapbox, but despite some thinking the switch to intel-based hardware would result in more Mac games, I wonder if it's had the opposite effect. Since Intel-based Macs can run Windows (which has a massive selection of games) developers may feel that most of the (later mac model base) has already bought the windows version of the game. (And the state of the current economy has resulted in cutbacks at many software companies.)
With some exceptions such as Blizzard titles (like WoW) and The Sims (both wildly popular), usually by the time a Mac version is released there's a later version out for the PC. (Call of Duty 4 for Mac is an example.) And there's some highly rated PC titles from the past now in the bargain bin or in the $9.99 to $29.99 price range (vs $50).
I don't have the free time for a WoW addiction (or The Sims), but have always enjoyed an hour of two of gaming after a long day of tedious troubleshooting or more 'serious' work. (An hour of so of Race Driver GRID (bought for $25) with a wheel/pedal setup and decent system/graphics card is almost therapy IMHO. And the closest I'll ever get to driving a Ferrari or C5R/C6R on a Euro track.)
I still spend 99% of my time in OS X and have no plans to change that. However Bootcamp use for me was a major factor in deciding to replace the 4870/512MB card with the GTX 285. It's not that I was unhappy with the 4870 (in either OS), it's just Windows clearly takes better advantage of the 285's superior hardware than does the current version/drivers in OS X. (As well as some utilities/features that are not available for OS X.)

This is not meant to be a review of the card in Windows (there are many well-known PC sites that do a much better job at that - just search for Geforce GTX-285 reviews) but just some notes and ramblings on what I've seen in the first few days of Bootcamp use. (64bit Vista Ultimate is installed on a separate drive in the Mac Pro.) I've not seen any issues with the GTX 285 (or ATI 4870 for that matter) booting back and forth between OS X and Vista or in general use. (I do not sleep the Tower in Windows however, normally I only boot to it to run a game, update the Norton 2009 AV defs or check for updates.)

Before installing the card, I downloaded the latest reference drivers from Nvidia (as of this post date, v185.85). EVGA's drivers page links to the same nvidia page although they have other software also. (And Nvidia's site of course also has a ton of other software - PhysX, demos, etc.) I then removed the ATI Catalyst (9.5) drivers (I didn't use a driver sweep utility, although some do) and shut down the machine to swap the card out.

A little background:
When Circuit City closed last year and their 'discount' hit 60% off 'list' (a moving target it seemed), I bought a Logitech G15 Keyboard with LCD display and backlit keys. (List was $99.xx, I paid $40 - impulse buy.) Until getting the GTX 285 card however, I hadn't even taken it out of the box. I've never been a big fan of keyboards that use software for special functions, macros, etc. (just more tasks running in the background). And I had a bad experience with Logitech's OS X utility software years ago. (The word "polluting" my OS X drive comes to mind - and no uninstall option that I could find.) But after seeing the G15 LCD support with EVGA's Precision utility for Windows, I dusted off the G15 to give it a try in Vista on the Bootcamp drive.

After registering (required) at EVGA's site (and logging in), I downloaded the Precision utility and installed it as well as the latest Logitech G15 software for Vista 64. (I disabled most of the standard LCD apps from Logitech like Clock (?), email scanning/alerts, media player, etc. although some may find them useful.)

As shown above, the utility has running graphs over time of temperatures, clock speeds (cycles down on idle, up on load), fan speeds and allows manual adjustments if desired. (This isn't unique of course, RivaTuner (which this is based on) has been around for years and ATI's Catalyst drivers for Windows includes their "OverDrive" utility with fan speed control.)

When active (I minimize to tray), the G15's LCD shows similar info and during gaming will also report FPS. I found this very useful to see actual framerates during play, as well as the ability to easily monitor temperatures while a full-screen game is running. (And yes, the Geek factor is very high.)


Here's a photo of the G15 Keyboard's LCD taken at the intro (video) in Call of Duty 4. (FPS rate during play was typically much higher - at times over 100fps.)

G15 Status

During an appx 20 min stint in COD 4 (1920x1200, 4x FSAA, max AF, shadows, high texture settings, etc. - using 185.85 Nvidia drivers) I saw GPU temps of appx 72C, well within the limits. [FYI: For comments on the later 190.38 BETA drivers released on July 16th, 2009, see this page.] And glancing down at the LCD during some firefights still showed very good FPS (usually at least 70, often higher). Although I had been satisfied overall with the 4870/512MB cards game performance (realizing it's not in the upper tier of PC cards), as expected, HQ COD4 performance was noticeably smoother with the GTX 285.
Again, normally I would have avoided installing software like the G15's, but I really like the GPU reporting on the LCD feature. (But I'm not impressed with the overall quality/feel of the G15's mechanicals.) Logitech's GamePanel LCD Technology page has more info on game/utility and CPU mfr support.

I don't have Quake4 installed in windows (for direct comparison to OS X results) but ID's Doom III benchmarked at 167 FPS in an HOC (no audio) timedemo at 1920x1200, 4x FSAA, 8x AF and high quality settings.

I've not experimented with Overclocking the card (via Precision utility) but I'm not sure that's really worth it for a few more FPS. But it's nice to have the option. For years I've wished ATI and Nvidia would offer something similar for OS X users - at least the 3D/Video tweaking utility. (ATI's Control Panel for OS X (last seen with the G5 X1900 edition) is no longer supported or in development as far as I know.)

(This page is a work in progress and will be updated over time for anything new/interesting I find out. If anyone has any questions related to this card, feel free to ask.)

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